England wasn't good enough

**Memphis** · 07-03-2006 02:22 PM

I do, really I do

**BIG H** · 07-03-2006 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by Munky

I now want to see France win it. Simply because i think Zidane deserves it. The man gave all the brazilians a lesson in how to play football...the guy is amazing and hard as nails to boot. You wont catch him rolling over 5 times on the floor trying to get people sent off.

I will be rooting for france with all my heart against Portugits. I want to see Ronadlo cry...cry like a baby you F****** weasel.I hope he starts crying then falls over, breaks his nose and possibly knocks some teeth out. I hate the c*nt.

All this doesn't detract from the fact that we simply were not good enough but...

COME ON FRANCE AND ZIDANE!

**Howlin Mad Missy** · 07-03-2006 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by Memphis

OK lets say he did, what did HE actually do that got Rooney sent of, I dont like the bloke, but he didnt do anything wrong. Its wrong to try and cheat someone off of the pitch, but he didnt.

Provocation.

**SimonH** · 07-03-2006 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by skel1983

Originally Posted by BK

Hargreaves and Crouch tried their damnedest, but they are simply not good enough to do the jobs they were asked to do.

I totally disagree, Hargreaves tried his hardest but wasnt good enough?? He was by far the best player on the pitch from both teams.

He was not asked to run around the pitch like a lunatic, he was asked to protect the centre backs, and begin attacks...

You never see Makelele run around like a headless chicken, but he is the best in the world at this type of job.

Carrick although defensively not as good as Hargreaves has a much better touch and arguably is the finest passer in the team, he would of been a better choice.

Hargreaves IMO, is much better in a 4-4-2 formation as the more defensive midfielder, where he can use his energy more effectively. But of course that means dropping either Lampard, Gerrard or Beckham, which sadly Sven did not have the balls to do.

**gogs67** · 07-03-2006 04:35 PM

I must admit,as a Scot,i'm always glad when i see Hargreaves playing,in the same way as i used to breath a sigh of relief when Heskey was picked!

**Memphis** · 07-03-2006 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by Missy

Originally Posted by Memphis

OK lets say he did, what did HE actually do that got Rooney sent of, I dont like the bloke, but he didnt do anything wrong. Its wrong to try and cheat someone off of the pitch, but he didnt.

Provocation.

Do me a favour

**Howlin Mad Missy** · 07-03-2006 04:58 PM

Sure it was, he started before the game, no player wants to see an opposition player barge past him and get in the refs face...it is especially provocation when you know the other person is likely to kick off if you do. Ronaldo knew the likely outcome hence provocation hence the wink and pucker.