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    Default Re: take the tests.

    This taking the tests blah blah is old news "manny pacquiao has already agreed to take the test long time ago whether be it 7days before the fight or before the fight itself". It is floyd who still ducked and decided he just might take a vacation for a while.

    I dunno where floyds fans is getting there inspiration in keeping there eyes and ears closed and continue to admire this guy. The right way to do is leave him be and by doing so you are forcing floyd to prove himself all over again and then the shit battle of the century will finally happen.

    Iam a firm believer that floyd is the only guy who could stop the rampage of this little gutsy man. But in floyds mind he hasn't still convinced himself that he can certainly win. He is waiting for that solid flaw to show, that's why maybe he just wants pacquiao to fight and fight until he sees that. Unfortunately, this damn little man is so dynamic that every time he fights he adds a a little but new dimension to his game and it makes him more complicated to be analyzed for.

    I believe floyd will not fight this guy unless he can simulate in his mind that he can 120% really beat the guy. again unfortunately, time isn't on floyds side. The longer he waits manny pacquiao will become bigger and bigger and bigger. Bigger in legacy, bigger in value, and bigger fans all the things floyd would die for.
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    Default Re: take the tests.

    He does need to do the tests because how can he go from struggling against Marquez and having to go 9 rounds before he did away with David Diaz and now he is big enough and strong enough to beat these bigger guys more comfortable? he needs to stop all the catchweight bollocks as well getting Oscar to weigh 147lbs asking Mosley to weigh 143lbs Cotto 145lbs and Margarito 150lbs. He is a good fighter but it seems theirs always some sort of edge in his favour in his recent fights Oscar weight drained beyond belief Hatton was shot Cotto weight drained Cotto hadn't weighed less than 146lbs since 10th june 2006 and had been battered by margarito and nearly lost to Clottey. Clottey just came to last 12 rounds and Margarito had to weigh 150lbs and had been demolished by Mosley so he needs to fight a real live challenge rather than trying to pull the wool over our eyes because he's not doing anything we've not already seen as such.

    Mayweather beat Oscar at his strong weight of 154lbs
    Mayweather beat the unbeaten Hatton
    Margarito stopped Cotto in 11 rounds at 147lbs
    Cotto beat Clottey and dropped him
    Mosley demolished Margarito

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    Default Re: take the tests.

    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    watch the tone kel.

    That is simply my opinion like many others.

    I like manny and he is great fighter I just want to see the fight between these two like everyone else but the blood tests are obviously an issue. mug
    Pac already agreed to it, you dick.
    PAC has not come out and said he agrees to anything you pacnut hugger.
    PAC will probably fight zab Judah and baldomir and call it a day..and then people will go wild after he beats over the hill boxers floods already beat. Lol

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    Default Re: take the tests.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Manny Pacquiao fought Audley Harrison at a 160 pound catch weight for a vacant title.

    Same old story.

    Find a vacant title

    Find a bum to fight for it

    Set a catch weight to drain the said bum

    Get some organization to sanction

    Get given a title

    Pass a urine test after the fight

    I really am having trouble understanding how anyone is a fan of Pacquiao.

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    Default Re: take the tests.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if Manny Pacquiao fought Audley Harrison at a 160 pound catch weight for a vacant title.

    Same old story.

    Find a vacant title

    Find a bum to fight for it

    Set a catch weight to drain the said bum

    Get some organization to sanction

    Get given a title

    Pass a urine test after the fight

    I really am having trouble understanding how anyone is a fan of Pacquiao.
    I doubt manny would even care about the trinket titles wbc's been giving boxers willing to "pay" for them.
    That being said, I really think margarito was a handpicked opponent before this bout. But that doesn't mean I don't give manny the props that he deserved after dishing out the beating that margo had coming for him. He was after all, still in there with a very game and well conditioned opponent who weighed in 17 pounds heavier than he is. Regardless of how the fight went it's course, how could you not like the class manny showed in and after the fight? For pete's sake he even said boxing is not about killing, it's about entertainment or somewhere along those lines. And he proved it in the 12th round when he could have easily poured in the power punches seeing margo was out of the game for sure.
    Now I'm sure you absolutely loathe manny judging from your previous posts, but questioning people for being a fan of manny is absolutely absurd in my book, more so after this fight.
    I'd still say he's the underdog if the pbf fight goes through, but really.. really?? You still hate the guy even though he hasn't been proven to be taking any illegal substances and not a squeak from you from the real cheaters of this sport? Wow..
    Last edited by arcanum26; 11-14-2010 at 04:23 PM.

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    Default Re: take the tests.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if Manny Pacquiao fought Audley Harrison at a 160 pound catch weight for a vacant title.

    Same old story.

    Find a vacant title

    Find a bum to fight for it

    Set a catch weight to drain the said bum

    Get some organization to sanction

    Get given a title

    Pass a urine test after the fight

    I really am having trouble understanding how anyone is a fan of Pacquiao.
    Much better than being a Haye groupie.

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    Default Re: take the tests.

    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    watch the tone kel.

    That is simply my opinion like many others.

    I like manny and he is great fighter I just want to see the fight between these two like everyone else but the blood tests are obviously an issue. mug
    Pac already agreed to it, you dick.
    PAC has not come out and said he agrees to anything you pacnut hugger.
    PAC will probably fight zab Judah and baldomir and call it a day..and then people will go wild after he beats over the hill boxers floods already beat. Lol
    Oh yeah?.. Then what do you call this?...

    (Check out 2:20)



    They're buttloads of articles and videos that Pac stating to agree with the test. You can check them out one by one.

    YouTube - pacquiao agreed to the test

    Google the rest!
    Last edited by :::PSL:::; 11-14-2010 at 04:42 PM.

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    Default Re: take the tests.

    Quote Originally Posted by arcanum26 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if Manny Pacquiao fought Audley Harrison at a 160 pound catch weight for a vacant title.

    Same old story.

    Find a vacant title

    Find a bum to fight for it

    Set a catch weight to drain the said bum

    Get some organization to sanction

    Get given a title

    Pass a urine test after the fight

    I really am having trouble understanding how anyone is a fan of Pacquiao.
    I doubt manny would even care about the trinket titles wbc's been giving boxers willing to "pay" for them.
    That being said, I really think margarito was a handpicked opponent before this bout. But that doesn't mean I don't give manny the props that he deserved after dishing out the beating that margo had coming for him. He was after all, still in there with a very game and well conditioned opponent who weighed in 17 pounds heavier than he is. Regardless of how the fight went it's course, how could you not like the class manny showed in and after the fight? For pete's sake he even said boxing is not about killing, it's about entertainment or somewhere along those lines. And he proved it in the 12th round when he could have easily poured in the power punches seeing margo was out of the game for sure.
    Now I'm sure you absolutely loathe manny judging from your previous posts, but questioning people for being a fan of manny is absolutely absurd in my book, more so after this fight.
    I'd still say he's the underdog if the pbf fight goes through, but really.. really?? You still hate the guy even though he hasn't been proven to be taking any illegal substances and not a squeak from you from the real cheaters of this sport? Wow..

    Please tell me how you prove a guy is clean or dirty when that guy refuses to take tests. Answers on a post card.

    I believe anyone who ducks a drug test is a cheat. 100%

    I can't find ANYTHING about manny pacquiao to like.

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    Default Re: take the tests.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by arcanum26 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if Manny Pacquiao fought Audley Harrison at a 160 pound catch weight for a vacant title.

    Same old story.

    Find a vacant title

    Find a bum to fight for it

    Set a catch weight to drain the said bum

    Get some organization to sanction

    Get given a title

    Pass a urine test after the fight

    I really am having trouble understanding how anyone is a fan of Pacquiao.
    I doubt manny would even care about the trinket titles wbc's been giving boxers willing to "pay" for them.
    That being said, I really think margarito was a handpicked opponent before this bout. But that doesn't mean I don't give manny the props that he deserved after dishing out the beating that margo had coming for him. He was after all, still in there with a very game and well conditioned opponent who weighed in 17 pounds heavier than he is. Regardless of how the fight went it's course, how could you not like the class manny showed in and after the fight? For pete's sake he even said boxing is not about killing, it's about entertainment or somewhere along those lines. And he proved it in the 12th round when he could have easily poured in the power punches seeing margo was out of the game for sure.
    Now I'm sure you absolutely loathe manny judging from your previous posts, but questioning people for being a fan of manny is absolutely absurd in my book, more so after this fight.
    I'd still say he's the underdog if the pbf fight goes through, but really.. really?? You still hate the guy even though he hasn't been proven to be taking any illegal substances and not a squeak from you from the real cheaters of this sport? Wow..

    Please tell me how you prove a guy is clean or dirty when that guy refuses to take tests. Answers on a post card.

    I believe anyone who ducks a drug test is a cheat. 100%

    I can't find ANYTHING about manny pacquiao to like.
    The best I can come up with in your lofty standards is suspicion. What I'm trying to say is why are you focusing all your posts here trying to discredit someone who hasn't been proven as a cheat when I have not heard a peep from you questioning margo with the whole hand wraps issue. Now before you shed tears in outright anger thinking I'm defending manny for ducking the tests, don't.. please. Last thing I want to see in a boxing forum is a grown man crying. I'm not saying manny shouldn't be questioned for ducking the tests. But why not give him the benefit of the doubt when you in all likelihood are doing that for margo? I sure haven't seen you calling out margos fans for all the bs he's been doing.

    This leads me to believe you've been chased out of one of them filipino boxing forums where some poster hit you right on the chin where it hurts the most and you cried yourself to sleep all night hugging your fluffy pillow.. Sorry if that's the case.

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    Default Re: take the tests.

    You ducked the question. Prove a guy who runs away from random steroid tests or demands stipulations on them is clean.

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    Default Re: take the tests.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    You ducked the question. Prove a guy who runs away from random steroid tests or demands stipulations on them is clean.
    Like I said I'm suspicious about the whole testing issue. I'm not saying manny's guilty, I'm not saying he's not. What I'm trying to say is why are you taking the holier than thou stance when lots of proven cheaters are still getting big paydays and you're not criticizing them? If you're not an absolute hater, prove it.
    Last edited by arcanum26; 11-14-2010 at 08:52 PM.

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    Default Re: take the tests.

    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Hi, hope everyone is well.

    Manny is a great pocket punch fighter and he has great stamina, great movement. But he does seem to fight at catchweights and make everyone drain down to his level. Mosely was prepared to fight him two years ago but manny sits on the sidelines and waits for floyd to deal with mosely so now you might see manny fight mosely in late 2011 when he def will be over the hill.

    Floyd agreed to his terms of being fined if he comes in over the weight limit..why cant manny agree to his?

    I do believe mannys speed and movement will def give floyd some serious problems especially if he is throwing over a thousand punches a fight with power and accuracy,

    manny needs to fight paul williams next year and floyd mayweather..if he is victorious then he is the best pound 4 pound. No excuses.
    Manny needs? ? ?
    Manny don't need shit from Paul.
    PBF possibly but not Paul.
    Paul fucken lost to "Maravilla" and he'll lose again.
    IF and that's a huge if Paul were to beat Maravilla and Pac were to fight Paul & PBF in 2011 and he beats them both not only would he be p4p the best but that IMO would give him a strong case at P4P 1, 2 or 3 all time. No doubt.

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    Default Re: take the tests.

    The only reason PBF has not fought Manny Pacquiao as yet is because he genuinely believes he is the only man who can beat him. He's stalling, tests? how many tests does he want? If Pacquiao is taking something illegal it would have been discovered by now and he would be out of the game. It's all bullshit and PBF needs to grow some balls and make it happen. It's the only fight left for either fighter IMO and boxing itself needs it more than ever during this lean time for the sport. Just forget the crap and make the fight!

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    Default Re: take the tests.

    I never in my life thought Pac was on anything until he refused to take random blood testing.
    After that, everyone has to be suspicious.
    Oh wait, "Manny doesn't want to give up to Floyd's demands" "Manny has such a big ego he never would do something Floyd told him to."


    The biggest egomaniac of them all accepted every single one of Manny's request.
    But he is afraid right?

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    Default Re: take the tests.

    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    The only reason PBF has not fought Manny Pacquiao as yet is because he genuinely believes he is the only man who can beat him. He's stalling, tests? how many tests does he want? If Pacquiao is taking something illegal it would have been discovered by now and he would be out of the game. It's all bullshit and PBF needs to grow some balls and make it happen. It's the only fight left for either fighter IMO and boxing itself needs it more than ever during this lean time for the sport. Just forget the crap and make the fight!
    You are being very naive about performance enhancing drugs in sports. Blood testing is the most basic way to test...the new exotic drugs can only be detected through muscle biopsy. Boxing's drug testing is hardly the most rigorous. What Floyd's true intentions where by asking Manny to take the tests...we can argue about that. But ultimately...whether he intended to or not...he brings up a valid point. With how widespread PEDs are in sports...athletes should be tested more stringently. pac's response to the whole affair raises suspicion. here is this brave fighter who can stand up to bigger guys than himself...but he is afraid to give blood?! And you think Floyd is scared?! Yeah...watching how stiffs like Clottey and Margo can land on Pac at will...Floyd is terrified. i agree the fight needs to happen. But get prepared for the Pac hype machine to come to a screeching halt.

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