Pac, Margo, Cotto, Handwraps...

[Onix]

I never for once believed Margarito used hands wraps against Cotto. Especially after actually watching the fight and seeing him walk around the ring during the post fight celebration shaking everyone's hands WITH HIS WRAPS STILL ON. If they were bricks someone would have noticed.

I firmly believe that those that say he cheated against Cotto, only say so because Cotto got his ass whooped.

That Cotto fight was Margo's crowning moment, too bad he tarnished it especially considering that he probably was on the up and up on that one.

[El Kabong]

I think he had loaded wraps....I mean he did get caught trying to load wraps vs Mosley and I think its safe to assume it wasn't the first time they tried that ESPECIALLY if we're to believe that Margarito didn't know he had his hands wrapped illegally. I mean if he has had as many fights as he's had and had his hands wrapped legally each time then you figure he would feel a difference in the wraps.

Just my opinion

[JonesJrMayweather]

I think he had loaded wraps....I mean he did get caught trying to load wraps vs Mosley and I think its safe to assume it wasn't the first time they tried that ESPECIALLY if we're to believe that Margarito didn't know he had his hands wrapped illegally. I mean if he has had as many fights as he's had and had his hands wrapped legally each time then you figure he would feel a difference in the wraps.

Just my opinion

The wraps he was caught with where type of plaster that starts soft and hardens as it becomes wet. So it would feel soft at first.

How much money did you lose on the Cotto beat down? Or was it just one where you picked the wrong guy?

[Apii911]

Who's to say?
Nazim Richardson, I believe, played CSI right before the Mosley bout-
WHERE I have to say, my living room & I were heated up, screaming at Mosley to
DROP HIS BURRITO-STUFFIN' ASS!!

Anywho...
I know he loaded up against Cotto. I've said it since the night I saw it live.
Oh my God, Cotto may be retarded when it comes to countering & defense
-I feel, he's arrogant & wants to show-off his swirve & how he can take a hit & recover-
but he looked abnormal. I know Margo gave another bout a colliflower ear-
I was impressed, but I was in the dilemma: He coulda stuffed.

Whatever. Who knows, who cares. He lost so let's get over it.

[El Kabong]

I didn't bet anything on the fight I'm just not naïve enough to believe Margarito's defense or that he was just going to use them that one time....I mean anyone that believes that is stupid or biased.

I don't know for certain that he used them just like no one (other than Margarito and his former trainer) can say he didn't use them.

[ElTerribleMorales]

I didn't bet anything on the fight I'm just not naïve enough to believe Margarito's defense or that he was just going to use them that one time....I mean anyone that believes that is stupid or biased.

I don't know for certain that he used them just like no one (other than Margarito and his former trainer) can say he didn't use them.

exactly, hell i was one of the guys who picked Margarito over Cotto on here, but it's obvious, why the hell was Margarito gonna cheat in the fight he was the favorite in (Mosley), yet not even think about it in the biggest fight of his career (Cotto) sometimes people can't just put 2 and 2 together

[Onix]

I didn't bet anything on the fight I'm just not naïve enough to believe Margarito's defense or that he was just going to use them that one time....I mean anyone that believes that is stupid or biased.

I don't know for certain that he used them just like no one (other than Margarito and his former trainer) can say he didn't use them.

exactly, hell i was one of the guys who picked Margarito over Cotto on here, but it's obvious, why the hell was Margarito gonna cheat in the fight he was the favorite in (Mosley), yet not even think about it in the biggest fight of his career (Cotto) sometimes people can't just put 2 and 2 together

And some guys cant take the truth.

[mafiajoey]

And right about the time Margos wraps started to harden.....it was then that the punches tore Cotto apart. Margo was not dominating.

[JonesJrMayweather]

I didn't bet anything on the fight I'm just not naïve enough to believe Margarito's defense or that he was just going to use them that one time....I mean anyone that believes that is stupid or biased.

I don't know for certain that he used them just like no one (other than Margarito and his former trainer) can say he didn't use them.

exactly, hell i was one of the guys who picked Margarito over Cotto on here, but it's obvious, why the hell was Margarito gonna cheat in the fight he was the favorite in (Mosley), yet not even think about it in the biggest fight of his career (Cotto) sometimes people can't just put 2 and 2 together

Maybe the 2 that needs to be put together is that Margarito with his pressure style vs Cottos' weak chin = no need to cheat.

Where as against Mosely let's see:

Umm Shane has only been hurt once and only after the perfect circumstances of headbutt followed by huge right hand. He's always fought everyone tough and had Cotto running, plus his experience. Translates to: We might need something extra to try and stop a guy that's never been stopped.

[JonesJrMayweather]

I didn't bet anything on the fight I'm just not naïve enough to believe Margarito's defense or that he was just going to use them that one time....I mean anyone that believes that is stupid or biased.

I don't know for certain that he used them just like no one (other than Margarito and his former trainer) can say he didn't use them.

So is pac cheating? Because he fucked Cotto up worse... Not to mention he's beating the bigger men worse than he did the smaller men

[El Kabong]

I didn't bet anything on the fight I'm just not naïve enough to believe Margarito's defense or that he was just going to use them that one time....I mean anyone that believes that is stupid or biased.

I don't know for certain that he used them just like no one (other than Margarito and his former trainer) can say he didn't use them.

exactly, hell i was one of the guys who picked Margarito over Cotto on here, but it's obvious, why the hell was Margarito gonna cheat in the fight he was the favorite in (Mosley), yet not even think about it in the biggest fight of his career (Cotto) sometimes people can't just put 2 and 2 together

And some guys cant take the truth.

I just want to float out the idea that perhaps all fighters who load their wraps don't get caught doing it and although I can't say I'm 100% sure that Margarito loaded his wraps vs Cotto you can't say that you're 100% sure he didn't because Margarito was willing to use loaded wraps vs Mosley and by as Manny Pacquiao would say "just common sense" you've got to figure if he did it in a fight where he was a big favorite he probably did it in other fights as well.

I mean Margarito got punished by the California Athletic Commission for a reason, those guys don't had out bans like that (and stick to them) for no damn reason.

I've seen Cotto busted up plenty but never like that...I mean even vs Pacquiao, Cotto didn't look like that, I mean he looked beat up and all but not like he did vs Margarito. Look at the shots he landed on Cotto and then right after that fight look at what Margarito did to Shane Mosley....NOT A GOD DAMN THING.....and guess what we know for a FACT Margarito didn't have loaded wraps vs Shane....so reason it out, it's an easy conclusion to come to.

[El Kabong]

So is pac cheating? Because he fucked Cotto up worse... Not to mention he's beating the bigger men worse than he did the smaller men

Maybe maybe not....the steroid/HGH question still looms over Pacquiao but Manny never got caught loading wraps

Stick up for Margarito all you want, may as well stick up for Luis Resto and Panama Lewis while you're at it.....Margarito got CAUGHT and the only reason he's still fighting (or was still fighting) is that he didn't get the chance to use those wraps vs Shane Mosley and for a boxing "fan" to defend Antonio Margarito as a boxer that is just insane to me...I mean why not just put some horse shoes in the gloves and let the fighters go at it and forget any and all pretense of boxing as a sport.

[Julius Rain]

I didn't bet anything on the fight I'm just not naïve enough to believe Margarito's defense or that he was just going to use them that one time....I mean anyone that believes that is stupid or biased.

I don't know for certain that he used them just like no one (other than Margarito and his former trainer) can say he didn't use them.

So is pac cheating? Because he fucked Cotto up worse... Not to mention he's beating the bigger men worse than he did the smaller men

Pac is beating the bigger guys worse cause he's offense is on another level. Plus the fact that he is faster then these guys are use too.

Its hard to say if Tony cheated over Cotto but I can not blame the guys who are accusing him. He does not help himself clear his reputation up. Just like Manny Steward said, this guys are stupid to even put themselves in a position where people may think they are trying to cheat...hence having some kind of drink aside from water in thier locker room. Just poor decisions Tony's camp are making.

[hardcore_crash]

And all the countless right hands and jabs Floyd landed on Shane really took a toll on his face too right?? Must have been because Floyd's gloves weren't loaded.
As well as DLH in his prime and most people for Shane has fought.

Surely no one gets worn down the first round right, it take rounds of heavy body punching, as well as trying reallyyyyy hard to keep someone of of you that big who is constantly in your face. Not only that but obviously, Cotto was trying to take Margarito out with some hard shots.

Call it plaster drying out, but I call it constant pressure from a bigger guy who you CAN'T keep off of you.

[El Kabong]

OK question to the people defending Margarito....

Was the Mosley fight the ONLY fight where Antonio Margarito was going to cheat?


Do you guys want me to believe that? I mean we're talking Shane Mosley who just BARELY beat Ricardo Mayorga (a come from behind KO) and Margarito's camp thinks they need plaster of paris wraps to beat that guy??!?!?!

I may have been born at night but I wasn't born last night...in my mind if you're going to cheat once you're of the mindset to do it as many times as you can get away with it.