Pac, Margo, Cotto, Handwraps...

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Compubox would help sort this out too.

Who absorbed more power punches from Marg... Cotto or Pac?

Who landed more power shots against Marg... Cotto or Pac?

I've used the term "power" cuz Mag's jabs are almost useless.




It has something to do with Marg's new coach too. Robert Garcia. Did Tony improved with his supervision?

[El Kabong]

Cotto: 280/655 43%
Margarito: 267/987 27%

Cotto: 172/597 29%
Pacquiao: 336/780 43%


There you go....Margarito connects with 27% of all his punches and busts Cotto up worse than Pacquiao did with 69 less punches than Manny too

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But no one casually points out that Pac is 148 and Marg is 160 plus.....
But when he fights Pac, well that 15 pound difference was why he hurt so much...
Im not trying to defend Margarito (tho it might seem like it).

[El Kabong]

Oh and just for fun I'll throw in the Mosley vs Margarito numbers too

Mosley: 178/507 35%

Margarito: 108/485 22%

[Onix]

OK question to the people defending Margarito....

Was the Mosley fight the ONLY fight where Antonio Margarito was going to cheat?


Do you guys want me to believe that? I mean we're talking Shane Mosley who just BARELY beat Ricardo Mayorga (a come from behind KO) and Margarito's camp thinks they need plaster of paris wraps to beat that guy??!?!?!

I may have been born at night but I wasn't born last night...in my mind if you're going to cheat once you're of the mindset to do it as many times as you can get away with it.

I really wouldnt say I defend Margarito, I jumped off that band wagon a long time ago, just using the same argument Pac fans use for PAc about the HGH...he has never been caught using it so he must not be using it. Margo was caught on that fight but never before and again how are you gonna walk around the ring and shake everyones hand after the Cotto fight and not worry about being caught? If he did use them that night maybe he really didnt know they were in there or is just that stupid who knows.

Either way a rematch between the two in mid 2011 would be great to watch.

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Oh and just for fun I'll throw in the Mosley vs Margarito numbers too

Mosley: 178/507 35%

Margarito: 108/485 22%

Where do you get those numbers? I think they're awesome.

Care to share the links?

[El Kabong]

Pacquiao has never been caught smoking Moon rocks before fights either...meanwhile Antonio Margarito was found with loaded wraps ergo it's possbile and even reasonable and rational to assume he's used those before as he was attempting to use them vs Shane Mosley...now he wouldn't be found guilty in the court of law by the evidence I've presented to you but I think we could EASILY reach a verdict of not guilty as opposed to completely innocent.

[El Kabong]

Oh and just for fun I'll throw in the Mosley vs Margarito numbers too

Mosley: 178/507 35%

Margarito: 108/485 22%

Where do you get those numbers? I think they're awesome.

Care to share the links?

Sure here you go
Miguel Cotto vs. Antonio Margarito CompuBox Stats

Manny Pacquiao vs. Miguel Cotto - CompuBox Stats

Shane Mosley sets distractions aside, mauls Antonio Margarito - ESPN

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Oh and just for fun I'll throw in the Mosley vs Margarito numbers too

Mosley: 178/507 35%

Margarito: 108/485 22%

Where do you get those numbers? I think they're awesome.

Care to share the links?

Sure here you go
Miguel Cotto vs. Antonio Margarito CompuBox Stats

Manny Pacquiao vs. Miguel Cotto - CompuBox Stats

Shane Mosley sets distractions aside, mauls Antonio Margarito - ESPN

Thanks man

[El Kabong]

Another question....Who in their right mind willingly takes 280 punches or 43% of the punches from Miguel Cotto thinking they will win?

....I think the answer is someone who knows they have an unfair advantage

[Onix]

Another question....Who in their right mind willingly takes 280 punches or 43% of the punches from Miguel Cotto thinking they will win?

....I think the answer is someone who knows they have an unfair advantage

And how many punches did he take against Pac and he still thought he was gonna win. Again I wouldnt be surprised if he did use them however his performance against Pacquiao just puts a dent in my mind that maybe he really didnt use them simply because he fought the same fight the only thing he added was a sorry jab but everything else was the same, if he knew he didnt have the advantage he probably would have tried something different.

[El Kabong]

And how many punches did he take against Pac and he still thought he was gonna win. Again I wouldnt be surprised if he did use them however his performance against Pacquiao just puts a dent in my mind that maybe he really didnt use them simply because he fought the same fight the only thing he added was a sorry jab but everything else was the same, if he knew he didnt have the advantage he probably would have tried something different.

....or maybe Margarito is just a very limited fighter who was better because he cheated and without the added help of the plaster wraps he's 1 dimensional to the point where he can be broken down.

Notice vs Shane Mosley and vs Manny Pacquiao that the very same Antonio Margarito that threw 100's of punches a round vs everyone else (roughly 90 punches a round vs Cotto) only managed just under 54 a round vs Mosley and 68 a round vs Pacquiao....seems like Tony was less willing to trade vs these opponents for some odd reason

[JonesJrMayweather]

And how many punches did he take against Pac and he still thought he was gonna win. Again I wouldnt be surprised if he did use them however his performance against Pacquiao just puts a dent in my mind that maybe he really didnt use them simply because he fought the same fight the only thing he added was a sorry jab but everything else was the same, if he knew he didnt have the advantage he probably would have tried something different.

....or maybe Margarito is just a very limited fighter who was better because he cheated and without the added help of the plaster wraps he's 1 dimensional to the point where he can be broken down.

Notice vs Shane Mosley and vs Manny Pacquiao that the very same Antonio Margarito that threw 100's of punches a round vs everyone else (roughly 90 punches a round vs Cotto) only managed just under 54 a round vs Mosley and 68 a round vs Pacquiao....seems like Tony was less willing to trade vs these opponents for some odd reason

Guy all of this is very simple..go to the file sharing board. Search for Margarito vs Cotto. Fast forward to the end and you'll see Margarito not only shake Cotto's hand WITH HIS WRAPS STILL ON, but also the ref Kenny Bayless grabs him by the hand to raise it victory. Then he gives the interview with the wraps in front of the camera in plain sight. Not to mention he WAS CLEARED OF USING ILLEGAL WRAPS DURING THE COTTO FIGHT.

Enough of your trying to make it seem as though he cheated against cotto that's why he won, because according to you he's always been a cheater. He already had 5 losses at that time. Was beaten by Williams just before that cotto fight. Why are you going to hard to make a case that he for sure cheated against Cotto and not the other guys?

Let it go man...he never officially cheated, because he was caught. And he whooped Cottos ass fair and square.

[El Kabong]

Guy all of this is very simple..go to the file sharing board. Search for Margarito vs Cotto. Fast forward to the end and you'll see Margarito not only shake Cotto's hand WITH HIS WRAPS STILL ON, but also the ref Kenny Bayless grabs him by the hand to raise it victory. Then he gives the interview with the wraps in front of the camera in plain sight. Not to mention he WAS CLEARED OF USING ILLEGAL WRAPS DURING THE COTTO FIGHT.

Enough of your trying to make it seem as though he cheated against cotto that's why he won, because according to you he's always been a cheater. He already had 5 losses at that time. Was beaten by Williams just before that cotto fight. Why are you going to hard to make a case that he for sure cheated against Cotto and not the other guys?

Let it go man...he never officially cheated, because he was caught. And he whooped Cottos ass fair and square.

Well ACTUALLY Cotto cites photo to dispute loss : He says it's evidence against Margarito, who later lost his license. - Los Angeles Times

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Guy all of this is very simple..go to the file sharing board. Search for Margarito vs Cotto. Fast forward to the end and you'll see Margarito not only shake Cotto's hand WITH HIS WRAPS STILL ON, but also the ref Kenny Bayless grabs him by the hand to raise it victory. Then he gives the interview with the wraps in front of the camera in plain sight. Not to mention he WAS CLEARED OF USING ILLEGAL WRAPS DURING THE COTTO FIGHT.

Enough of your trying to make it seem as though he cheated against cotto that's why he won, because according to you he's always been a cheater. He already had 5 losses at that time. Was beaten by Williams just before that cotto fight. Why are you going to hard to make a case that he for sure cheated against Cotto and not the other guys?

Let it go man...he never officially cheated, because he was caught. And he whooped Cottos ass fair and square.

Well ACTUALLY Cotto cites photo to dispute loss : He says it's evidence against Margarito, who later lost his license. - Los Angeles Times

It looks like cracked cement cast.