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    Default Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

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    Thats not why I think Mayorga has a good chance.

    Go on boxrec and look at his schedule of fights. Since Trinidad its been once a year, his last fight was the first in over 2. Even the Trinidad fight he was out 6 months before. I know alot of other fighters have these absenses and still do well but they have a bit more love for the sport than Ricardo does. He wants money which is why he doesnt mind taking these big fights when he knows hes not going to be ready.

    I think if hed have fought only 2 or 3 months before the Trinidad fight or the fight had been at light middle that Ricardo would have won. He was doing well and hurting Trinidad until he ran out of steam in the 4th and just allowed Trinidad to work on him. Felix couldnt dent his chin still, it was a body shot. ricardo needs to be active and fighting at a decent weight to force him to train. Hes not technically gifted but is tough and strong. When Mosley fought him he said that Oscar warned him that Mayorga is "very heavy handed".

    I just think that these 9 rounds hes just got done will do his chances the world of good. He didnt have a lot of notice for the fight but fought a decent pace for 9 rounds and still had the power to wobble and drop Walker in the 9th and Walker is a solid middle that Andy Lee couldnt drop in Walkers previous fight.

    As long as Ricardo trains and trains hard I think he could put Cotto in to his shell. Especially if he starts fast and lands something decent early. Iv always thought Ricardo would beat Cotto. Maybe hes too old now and the legs have slowed but the Mayroga that beat Forrest in those fights would ruin Cotto and would have given Mayweather and Pacquiao some exciting fights too.
    This is my first post in this topic. This is why I think Mayorga wins.

    Also. Who gave Mosley a harder fight, Margarito or Mayorga? and who battered Cotto? If Margarito can do that, a slow not very powerfull fighter, then Mayorga certainly has a chance!
    Well if you gone on the logic of who gave Mosley a harder fight, Cotto fucking beat him, and Mayorga got sparked by him. So really, that is stupid logic.

    Cotto has fought a few big punching wild swingers and come out on top. De La Hoya picked his shots against Mayorga and absolutely beat the crap out of him. Cotto is a skilled, methodical nasty bastard inside a boxing ring. He will pick Mayorga off all night and won't hear the final bell.

    Like Titofan said, make sure you come in here after the fight. I'll sig bet with you if you're so damn sure. Put your money where your mouth is.
    To be fair, both men gave Mosley a hard nights work and Mosley was fighting at different weights. In this fight Cotto will be in Mayorga's ballpark and that will have an impact. Cotto has had one fight at 154 and that was against a JMW version of Paulie Malignaggi. I also think Mosley went into the Cotto fight respecting Cotto a little too much early on.

    I'm not as certain as Ross as I sit on the fence a lot more these days, but Mayorga anywhere near his best is likely a tough nights work for Cotto. As much as I dislike DLH, I don't think Cotto is on the same level as DLH was when DLH toyed with Mayorga. Cotto has a lot of question marks over him and that Pac fight must have taken a lot too.

    Cotto should really be at 147, he is such a small JMW. Mayorga will balloon above him and will likely try and rough him up and it isn't as though Cotto doesn't cut these days.

    Cotto's size does represent a minus when you stack up the different factors. I also think Cotto's best weight is 147, given his height and reach. On the other hand, Cotto is 10 times the accomplished fighter Mayorga is. He's a better boxer, goes to the body whereas Mayorga is strictly a head hunter, and has a much better defense (that is... when he goes in with the right gameplan). Plus, having Stewart in his corner should help polish the few remaining glitches.

    If I'm objective about it, the only chance I give Mayorga is the proverbial puncher's chance. He's a wild swinger, and can certainly hurt Cotto if he connects with one of his bombs.

    However, I've lost all objectiveness about this fight, thanks largely to Ross's anti-Cotto rantings, including the straw that broke the camel's back when he wished that Cotto goes into the fight hampered by his shoulder surgery.

    I'm not a Mayorga-hater, but now I'm hoping Cotto punishes him severely before KTFO him. THEN, I want to see Ross in here, manning up to his pre-fight comments. But as El Terrible said... he won't, mainly 'cause he ain't got the intestinal fortitude to admit when he's wrong.
    Fair points, but I'm not going to get into the mudslinging thing as I don't care for that.

    Every good poster should man up after a loss though and that is something I have always done, and believe me, it's happened more than once!
    hell i've done it everytime Pacquiao beat my pick lol

    i just find it ridiculous that a guy who hasn't seen basically ANY of Cotto's fights speaks as if he has him completely figured out

    like i said IMO Cotto isn't anywhere as finished as some think, and with Steward in his corner he's going to surprise quite a few people this year
    I haven't read through this thread completely, but are you suggesting that I haven't seen all of Cotto's recent fights? I've seen all of them, like I watch every other fighter. Surely that's to Ross, right?

    I really don't think Steward is the difference though. He really does add only a few things to a fighter and the jab is the main thing. And at 154 agaisnt Mayorga, that isn't the main punch. Still, I am curious. Mayorga is a weird kind of customer, I wouldn't rule him out.
    no no no hahaha it wasn't directed to you hahaha

    ross admitted to not having seen many if any of Cotto's fights, yet then he acts as if he has him figured out, complete lunacy

    Steward wont teach him much but he'll have him taking his preparations seriously, which was his main flaw with his uncle, and well against Pacquiao and Clottey Cotto basically had NO trainer, his corner was a mess
    Right OK, im not proud of this but will admit to watching some of Cottos fights. Only whatever has been available on UK TV and youtube though. I wouldnt go out of my way to download or buy anything because I find his style dull. I watched the Ndou fight (the fight that gave the impression of his dullness) and the torres fight on our TV. I remember when the Malignaggi fight came about and reading that he gave Cotto a hard fight but then I watch a comebacking Hatton do him in I watched him run from Mosley, get ebaten up by Margarito with his punches having no effect. Watch a headhunting Mosley stalk him until Mosley decidid to throw a few shots and Cotto go in to his shell. I saw Pacquiao basiclly do the same as Margarito did and read how shite he looked against Clotty.
    that alone lets me know you know shit about the sport let alone Cotto

    the name Miguel Cotto and dull don't belong in the same sentence, lets leave that for Hatton in his second half of his career

    Cotto dominated Malignaggi when he was undefeated, literally breaking his face, although he didn't stop him it was more a testament to Malignaggi being a tough son of a bitch rather than Cotto not being good enough, factor in that he was already having issues making 140, and yet no one has inflicted such damage to Paulie including Hatton and Khan who both managed to get the TKO

    you said you saw his fight against Torres, that was a candidate for FOTY, and yet you say he's dull

    i'm not even having this discussion any further with you cause all you're doing is digging yourself into a deeper hole

    if the fight happens, i'll bet you anything on here that Cotto slaughters him and you'll be nowhere to be found

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    Default Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

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    i'm not even having this discussion any further with you

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    Oooooh get you!!

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    Default Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
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    i'm not even having this discussion any further with you

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    Oooooh get you!!
    like i said, turn up fight night after Cotto KO's Mayorga

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
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    i'm not even having this discussion any further with you

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    Oooooh get you!!
    like i said, turn up fight night after Cotto KO's Mayorga
    Ok, just in case Cotto wins, ill get my little speach ready now.

    "Im sorry for thinking that Mayorga would win and being a "hater". Im glad that Cotto beat this non threat and give him his "props" hes really proving himself among the worlds elite right now, unless that includes Margarito and Pacquiao".

    The above wont be happening

    See I even added a couple of cheesy cliche american terms

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    Default Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
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    i'm not even having this discussion any further with you

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    Oooooh get you!!
    like i said, turn up fight night after Cotto KO's Mayorga
    Ok, just in case Cotto wins, ill get my little speach ready now.

    "Im sorry for thinking that Mayorga would win and being a "hater". Im glad that Cotto beat this non threat and give him his "props" hes really proving himself among the worlds elite right now, unless that includes Margarito and Pacquiao".

    The above wont be happening

    See I even added a couple of cheesy cliche american terms

    You might even be funny if you weren't so pathetic.


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    Default Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    You might even be funny if you weren't so pathetic.

    Just because im going against popular opinion?

    Im not scared to put an opinion down, especially on a forum! Whats the worst that clould happen? I could be wrong? Whoop dee dooo!

    A few pissy little sissy knickers are worrying that Cotto might actually lose which is why they are in here arguing rather than just saying "fair play, whatever but it wont happen"

    Remember, Mayorga is the underdog, tune up opponent. Or that is how is being perceived but I dont think hes being given enough credit and I do think that Cotto at this weight, after 9 months out and after surgery and after those beatings is ready for the taking, again! If Margarito can do it, so can Mayorga. Ricardo has a better chin and a bigger punch than Margarito! He took all Shanes best shots until the last second and made Shane fight very cautious because of his power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
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    You might even be funny if you weren't so pathetic.

    Just because im going against popular opinion?

    Im not scared to put an opinion down, especially on a forum! Whats the worst that clould happen? I could be wrong? Whoop dee dooo!

    A few pissy little sissy knickers are worrying that Cotto might actually lose which is why they are in here arguing rather than just saying "fair play, whatever but it wont happen"

    Remember, Mayorga is the underdog, tune up opponent. Or that is how is being perceived but I dont think hes being given enough credit and I do think that Cotto at this weight, after 9 months out and after surgery and after those beatings is ready for the taking, again! If Margarito can do it, so can Mayorga. Ricardo has a better chin and a bigger punch than Margarito! He took all Shanes best shots until the last second and made Shane fight very cautious because of his power.

    Hey... you're capable of making good points. However, they tend to get lost in your "I hate Cotto" and "I hope Cotto goes into the fight still hurting from his shoulder surgery" rants. How can you expect to be taken seriously. Hey, you hate Cotto. We get it, dude.

    Contrary to you, I can be a fan and be objective at the same time. I've posted that Cotto's best weight is 147 and NOT 154. I've posted that Mayorga has the proverbial's "puncher's chance" because of his wild shots and his power. He did KTFO Vernon Forrest, who was a great fighter in his own right.

    But your hate for Cotto oozes out of your pores. Which is why I hope you're on meds if Cotto happens to KTFO Mayorga... for your own well being.

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    Default Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

    Mayorga has a good chance of winning.

    I am a fan of both fighters, admittedly more so of Mayorga.

    I agree with Ross that Mayorga is being under sold here, but unlike Ross I do not dislike Cotto or wish him ill will.
    "You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"

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    Mayorga has a good chance of winning.

    I am a fan of both fighters, admittedly more so of Mayorga.

    I agree with Ross that Mayorga is being under sold here, but unlike Ross I do not dislike Cotto or wish him ill will.

    Spoken like a true gentleman and a good boxing fan.


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    Mayorga has a good chance of winning.

    I am a fan of both fighters, admittedly more so of Mayorga.

    I agree with Ross that Mayorga is being under sold here, but unlike Ross I do not dislike Cotto or wish him ill will.

    Spoken like a true gentleman and a good boxing fan.

    Thank you I like to think I am a good boxing fan. But a true gentleman...I don't know about that.
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    Mayorga has a good chance of winning.

    I am a fan of both fighters, admittedly more so of Mayorga.

    I agree with Ross that Mayorga is being under sold here, but unlike Ross I do not dislike Cotto or wish him ill will.

    Spoken like a true gentleman and a good boxing fan.

    Thank you I like to think I am a good boxing fan. But a true gentleman...I don't know about that.
    see Hulk i have no prob with you, why? cause yea you are a Mayorga fan, a die hard Mayorga fan at that, but you back him with respect, plus you know damned well what Cotto is capable of cause you have actually seen his fights

    i would be able to watch the fight with you and we'd be cool as shit lol no probs, both backing up our fighter, but with ross, i'd just piss in his face laughing once Cotto got the victory hahaha

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    Mayorga has a good chance of winning.

    I am a fan of both fighters, admittedly more so of Mayorga.

    I agree with Ross that Mayorga is being under sold here, but unlike Ross I do not dislike Cotto or wish him ill will.

    Spoken like a true gentleman and a good boxing fan.

    Thank you I like to think I am a good boxing fan. But a true gentleman...I don't know about that.
    see Hulk i have no prob with you, why? cause yea you are a Mayorga fan, a die hard Mayorga fan at that, but you back him with respect, plus you know damned well what Cotto is capable of cause you have actually seen his fights

    i would be able to watch the fight with you and we'd be cool as shit lol no probs, both backing up our fighter, but with ross, i'd just piss in his face laughing once Cotto got the victory hahaha
    Then when you got back off the floor....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
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    Mayorga has a good chance of winning.

    I am a fan of both fighters, admittedly more so of Mayorga.

    I agree with Ross that Mayorga is being under sold here, but unlike Ross I do not dislike Cotto or wish him ill will.

    Spoken like a true gentleman and a good boxing fan.

    Thank you I like to think I am a good boxing fan. But a true gentleman...I don't know about that.
    see Hulk i have no prob with you, why? cause yea you are a Mayorga fan, a die hard Mayorga fan at that, but you back him with respect, plus you know damned well what Cotto is capable of cause you have actually seen his fights

    i would be able to watch the fight with you and we'd be cool as shit lol no probs, both backing up our fighter, but with ross, i'd just piss in his face laughing once Cotto got the victory hahaha
    Then when you got back off the floor....
    it'd be after i fell over from laughing at your ignorant ass , internet warrior

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    Default Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

    Indulgence in fantasy:

    I know Cotto's above this... but my fantasy goes something like this:

    Cotto has just KTFO'ed Mayorga... turns toward the camera... grabs his crotch, and says...
    "Hey Ross... I got your bad shoulder right here."


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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Indulgence in fantasy:

    I know Cotto's above this... but my fantasy goes something like this:

    Cotto has just KTFO'ed Mayorga... turns toward the camera... grabs his crotch, and says...
    "Hey Ross... I got your bad shoulder right here."

    Hes probably gonna be knackered for a wank with that shoulder after the fight? Maybe you Two could offer your services, you sound like a pair of wankers

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