How shot is shane Mosley? Why is he considered to be in "good Shape" and ready now?

[Gandalf]

No fighter pushing 40 is anywhere near their best and I include Hopkins in that too. Anyone expecting the Mosley of the 1st DLH fight is out of their minds, but I haven't really seen that being suggested. Mayweather fought an old, inactive Mosley and Pac is fighting an even older Mosley. Pac's fight has even less lustre because of how Mosley has been looking following that long lay off.

Still, I will be there hoping for a homerun from Shane.

[Mar]

It's all marketing. After floyd everyone said he was shot and old, hell that was even some of the reasons pac's camp gave for not fighting him. Not the fight beteween those two is made and some guy who couldn't beat who brian vera could is so called comp. how quick things change.

[Dorfmeister]

I believe Shane is shot or else he wouldn't have taken this fight after the Mayweather and the Mora fights. Not that in the Mora fight, he couldn't stretch himself down to the end and "get a draw" but basically b'cause in either of his last two fights, he hasn't shown the 3 minutes round activity to compete at at all time and in every single moment, and he would have to against Manny. Therefore I think it is legitimate to say that he's in there for the payday as much as Clottey and Margarito were. seeing basically from the Mayweather fight, he's basically spent to be only holding his ground for more than half of each round and that is hardly what would be asked of him for this.

[mafiajoey]

Anyone Floyd fights is shot.....if Pac fights them they are prime. Once Pac loses to Floyd these forums will be ghost ville. Either that or at least the Pac ball huggers will have to do more then worship there Pac shrine. They may actually have to read, watch fights, look at stats, and become unbiased.

[Dizaster]

Based of the Margarito fight, you would say he was in good shape for that... And definitely not shot...

But was rubbish against Mayweather...

Roach said he should hang him up, then booked a fight with him... Stupid...

Here is my honest observation, if Mosley was for real on the Mayweather fight, then I don't consider he would be in "good shape" now... I havn't actually seen anyone really say they consider him in good shape now...

BUTTTTTTT, I believe there is a 10% chance the plan was to lose against Mayweather,,,, the same way I believe probably 40% that ODLH planned to lose against Mayweather...
If that is the case, then Mosley could be back to close to Margarito standards...

I think he's aged though and isn't going to show the breakneck speed he had in the past, and probably won't take the beatings as amazing as he has... But he'll still be able to land some hellish blows on Pac...

It's all about what was going on in the Mayweather fight... Whether that was him at his best.. etc etc...

Then of course you could add in the drug debate, and that he's not getting the same testing vs Pac that he did Mayweather..

He's really an unknown quantity in my book... But i'd lean towards the downward slope in all honesty... And will find it hard to look like a fresh fighter against Pac..

[Dizaster]

Shane is definitely past it. Being past it doesn't mean he is a bum...but he no longer has the legs or stamina. You can talk all about the match up styles of his recent fights...but the big thing i see, is that Shane starts gassing out my the middle rounds. His output drops considerably as the fight progresses recently.

And that is where Pac's strength is... He'll go blow for blow the first couple of rounds.. He slowly gains in pace and learns the timing of his opponent.. And the second the start to slow or get a tiny bit sloppy with their attack, he nails the shit out of them.. The second he starts to make them miss alot as the rounds go on, he nails the shit out of them...

Mosley got no chance... Good shape or not, he's got 6 rounds to take control of the fight, but as much as on paper and theory you can say how he will be a strong opponent, I think 12 rounds and 6 of them in the second half of the fight, is too many rounds for Pac to learn and slaughter Shane's style..

That's simply how I see it..

[bcollins]

I can't stand Mayweather but think Mosley was actually one of the bigger more 'live' physical threats he's faced. Much respect for win......Vivian Harris= shot.....Shane Mosley.....39 yrs old

Right on. This supposedly 'shot' Mosley is probably still good enough to beat 80-90% of the welterweights out there. Is he an elite fighter anymore? Most likely not, although the old dog occasionally has one more trick up his sleeve. But he's no pushover for anyone, period. He managed to rock one of the best defensive fighters on the planet before Floyd adjusted and Shane gassed. If that's shot, I want in.

[Pavlik]

I can't stand Mayweather but think Mosley was actually one of the bigger more 'live' physical threats he's faced. Much respect for win......Vivian Harris= shot.....Shane Mosley.....39 yrs old

Right on. This supposedly 'shot' Mosley is probably still good enough to beat 80-90% of the welterweights out there. Is he an elite fighter anymore? Most likely not, although the old dog occasionally has one more trick up his sleeve. But he's no pushover for anyone, period. He managed to rock one of the best defensive fighters on the planet before Floyd adjusted and Shane gassed. If that's shot, I want in.

Exactly. definitely way past his prime but still a threat vs anyone at welter. Shane might have lost his stamina and some speed but his power and chin is there and bringing in the fact that he is bigger than PAC equalizes the playing field. We are not talking about Tata Baldomir here who is indeed durable but old and absolutely no power.

[Pavlik]

Who here thinks Shane Mosley is completely shot or close to it? Why is he considered to be in good shape now for Pac? But when Floyd fought him it was he was too old, shot, and over the hill.
So what does that make Shane now? So how can this version of shane be considered better than the one Floyd fought?

First and foremost nobody said Shane is in his prime or is in better shape now than when he fought Floyd, rehashing my older posts PAC being the smaller man in most of his fights that alone levels the playing field or actually gives an edge to his opponents so this is a fair fight IMO.

[Master]

Shane is not shot, the Margarito performance can testify to that, that performance was like the early 2000 but that was more to do with styles and circumstances for the outstanding win. He shook Floyd like no other and is dangerous. Holyfield is shot, Shane is not. yet.

[Pavlik]

Shane is not shot, the Margarito performance can testify to that, that performance was like the early 2000 but that was more to do with styles and circumstances for the outstanding win. He shook Floyd like no other and is dangerous. Holyfield is shot, Shane is not. yet.

Yep styles makes fights too, Shane lost to boxers like Forrest, Wright, Mora and Mayweather. PAC is a scrapper at heart this is a different case

[CutMeMick]

Shot to the point that he will be stopped for the 1st time in his career.... That shot.

[Master]

Shot to the point that he will be stopped for the 1st time in his career.... That shot.

So was Hatton, and ODH and the rest got stopped too does not make them shot.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Shot to the point that he will be stopped for the 1st time in his career.... That shot.

So was Hatton, and ODH and the rest got stopped too does not make them shot.

are you kidding me? DLH was shot to shit by the time he fought Pacquiao

[generalbulldog]

Shot to the point that he will be stopped for the 1st time in his career.... That shot.