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    Default Re: Pac's recent opponet is really that bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    And speaking of tiny, Floyd ain't no natural welterweight either. And for Floyd's career he usually hydrates 1 to 2 pounds on fight night. Many times in Floyd's career where he was outweigh by 10-15 pounds. Like the Corrales fight, Oscar fight, etc.
    True but Floyd doesn't beat up his opponent like the way pac beats them up.
    True but Floyd doesnt get hit as much as Pac does

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlebif View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    And speaking of tiny, Floyd ain't no natural welterweight either. And for Floyd's career he usually hydrates 1 to 2 pounds on fight night. Many times in Floyd's career where he was outweigh by 10-15 pounds. Like the Corrales fight, Oscar fight, etc.
    True but Floyd doesn't beat up his opponent like the way pac beats them up.
    True but Floyd doesnt get hit as much as Pac does
    So true. But this might work to Floyd's disadvantage if he and Pacqquiao meets. This means he is not used to getting hit whereas Manny is used to it (and Pac gets hit hard). If it is Manny who will be delivering that hit (by Mosley) that staggered Floyd in the second round you can be sure it will be followed by several other combinations.

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    Put it this way. If u had to be a fighter with pac and pbf to choose from. Whos skills would u really want..got to be pretty boy all the way. Remember, no matter what your opinions are, boxing is an art and its all about the ability to hit and not get hit.. U know its true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    And speaking of tiny, Floyd ain't no natural welterweight either. And for Floyd's career he usually hydrates 1 to 2 pounds on fight night. Many times in Floyd's career where he was outweigh by 10-15 pounds. Like the Corrales fight, Oscar fight, etc.
    True but Floyd doesn't beat up his opponent like the way pac beats them up.
    That's cuz Floyd doesn't pump the crap Pacquiao pumps into his body

    Quote Originally Posted by miron_lang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    You have to take a look of when the fights took place. The Cotto fight was a good one, and he should have followed it up with Mosley after the fallout with Floyd but instead went with Clottey whom no one really gave a shot of beating him. Margarito hasn't had a significant win since July of '08 when he fought Cotto and looked like crap in his 1 comeback fight before fighting Pac.

    Again the timing itself has to be questioned. If he was fighting Shane Mosley last year around this time it would be called a good fight. But now after Floyd and Mora? Shane looks like a shot fighter.

    After Mosley comes Clottey in the ranking. yeah the timing can be questioned but as he enters the division the TOP 4 were the fighters he have fought.

    Those TOP 4 Welters fought each other ( Cotto, Margarito, Mosley ) We can also add Clottey who fought Marg and Cotto. Do we ask those fighters to wait for Pacquiao so that we are sure that these fighters are not coming off losses?

    Mosley won againts Mora a style he doesnt look good againts. he lost to Mayweather who is regarded as the best fighter around by many people. Those 2 fights tells us that Mosley is shot following the sensational KO victory over the other major player in these drama in Margarito?

    Lets fair him with Berto.... I think your conscience will tell you how Mosley might perform against Berto.

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    Clottey lost to Cotto and Margarito
    Cotto lost to Margarito
    Mosley lost to Cotto
    Margarito lost to Mosley


    These are the 4 best fighters when Pac entered the WELTERWEIGHT DIVISION and PAC FOUGHT THEM ALL.( Will fight Mosley) them coming of bad performances are idiots excuses because they lost to each other. They didnt lose to any GateKeepers or other contenders like Judah, Cintron, Collazo or Quintana. THey lost to their fellow ranked welters.

    And Pac is giving away at least 10-15lbs against them on every fight.

    Mosley is done because he lost to FLoyd? I thought Floyd is the best fighter around? he's supposed to lose to Floyd
    Mosley is done cuz he now slurs his words pretty noticeably. He's also lost a good amount of speed and no longer throws fluid combinations

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    What you have to understand is that most fighters have a peak period when they are good, which lasts only a few months. Before that time they were not ready, after, they are clearly shot. If it cannot be argued a fighter is either too green, or ready to be put to pasture, then clearly he must have been overated.

    The fact is that by the above criteria Manny has not fought a single, prime athlete who was capable of testing him. His record is actually very mediocre when you examine it with the facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    What you have to understand is that most fighters have a peak period when they are good, which lasts only a few months. Before that time they were not ready, after, they are clearly shot. If it cannot be argued a fighter is either too green, or ready to be put to pasture, then clearly he must have been overated.

    The fact is that by the above criteria Manny has not fought a single, prime athlete who was capable of testing him. His record is actually very mediocre when you examine it with the facts.
    Say that to Floyd.
    And why this bullcrap about Manny being on PEDS then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by littlebif View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    And speaking of tiny, Floyd ain't no natural welterweight either. And for Floyd's career he usually hydrates 1 to 2 pounds on fight night. Many times in Floyd's career where he was outweigh by 10-15 pounds. Like the Corrales fight, Oscar fight, etc.
    True but Floyd doesn't beat up his opponent like the way pac beats them up.
    True but Floyd doesnt get hit as much as Pac does
    True but Floyd can't take as much punishment as Pac or dish out as much punishment as Pac.

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    This Pac vs Floyd stuff is truly reaching EPIC proportions.


    You know what? It doesn't really matter whether Pac's opponents have been good or bad.... whether they've been over-the-hill or not.... whether the timing has been exactly just so.... etc. What matters is that Pac has been FIGHTING. What the f*ck has Pretty Boy been doing?

    Answer: Jack-SHIT

    Case closed..... NEXT!!


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