No comments regarding Tomasz adamek vs kevin mcbride???

[Kev]

Im Polish and would really like Adamek to win , but he doesnt have more than a 5% chance of winning. Vitali has never had a fight that he has been losing on points. So why should this one be different.

Outside of a shoulder injurt a la Chris Byrd, or a sudden death by heart attack this is going to be a complete and total formality.

I would go so far to say as it's an impossible mission for Adamek to win this by boxing means. He won't have the power to score a shock knockout, and he's too small and weak to have a hope of winning any of the rounds.

I think the interest for this fight will be whether he can surprise us all like Matthew Hatton did against Canelo and hear the final bell. It will be entertaining for that reason, but a Vitali win is as close to a sure thing that there can be in boxing.

[ninjaspy3]

I have come to admire adamek but i see it like the majority of the other posters. I dont think adamek will be able to keep vitali off of him and will be dog tired in the later rounds. Him being worn out towards the end will probably result in vitali stopping him.

[Rantcatrat]

I have come to admire adamek but i see it like the majority of the other posters. I dont think adamek will be able to keep vitali off of him and will be dog tired in the later rounds. Him being worn out towards the end will probably result in vitali stopping him.

Completely agree. I admire Adamek too. He's a machine as cutme or sheep used to say. He is a top 20 p4p boxer in my opinion. But, the Vitali is too big of a mountain for him to climb. If he beat Vitali it would a huge shock. Monstrous.

[therealremi]

We all know what Vitali is capable of, but Vitali is getting old. Adamek's defence is much much better than when he fought Briggs. His chin is above average. He doesn't ever get nervous/intimidated like Andrew Golota, has strong faith and focus.
In 5 months time, we will come back to this thread. I'm not saying Adamek will most probably win, but how can you not see this as a very exciting fight??

[El Kabong]

I have come to admire adamek but i see it like the majority of the other posters. I dont think adamek will be able to keep vitali off of him and will be dog tired in the later rounds. Him being worn out towards the end will probably result in vitali stopping him.

Completely agree. I admire Adamek too. He's a machine as cutme or sheep used to say. He is a top 20 p4p boxer in my opinion. But, the Vitali is too big of a mountain for him to climb. If he beat Vitali it would a huge shock. Monstrous.

Hell I think at this point in time if Adamek beat Vitali you could consider it one of the biggest upsets of ALL TIME, right up there with Clay-Liston I, Tyson-Douglas, Rahman-Lewis....Vitali hasn't had a truly competitive fight since...well hell since the fight with Lennox Lewis. Corrie Sanders had his moments, but did he win enough rounds against Vitali to consider it a "competitive match"?

I take nothing away away from Adamek, he has really impressed me so far but there's a gigantic gap between The Klitschko's and the rest of the division.

[Master]

I think Adamek has a chance against Vitali, he has fought the right type of opposition and at least has earned the shot. I think he will lose on points but I hope he can win the title which has to be via a split decision.

[Hulk]

I have come to admire adamek but i see it like the majority of the other posters. I dont think adamek will be able to keep vitali off of him and will be dog tired in the later rounds. Him being worn out towards the end will probably result in vitali stopping him.

Completely agree. I admire Adamek too. He's a machine as cutme or sheep used to say. He is a top 20 p4p boxer in my opinion. But, the Vitali is too big of a mountain for him to climb. If he beat Vitali it would a huge shock. Monstrous.

Hell I think at this point in time if Adamek beat Vitali you could consider it one of the biggest upsets of ALL TIME, right up there with Clay-Liston I, Tyson-Douglas, Rahman-Lewis....Vitali hasn't had a truly competitive fight since...well hell since the fight with Lennox Lewis. Corrie Sanders had his moments, but did he win enough rounds against Vitali to consider it a "competitive match"?

I take nothing away away from Adamek, he has really impressed me so far but there's a gigantic gap between The Klitschko's and the rest of the division.

Jesus Christ Lyle...Really bro ? Up there with Tyson Douglas ?

This reminds me of how SHOCKED Larry Merchant was when Wlad was KO'd by Sanders....

Merchant: "This is a shock to the boxing world !"

George Foreman: "More like a shock to your world Larry"

[ruthless rocco]

i think vitali could do him in under 30 seconds if he really tried.
i like adamek. i dislike vitali. vitali could snap him like a twig.

[ninjaspy3]

i think vitali could do him in under 30 seconds if he really tried.
i like adamek. i dislike vitali. vitali could snap him like a twig.

I think Adamek will at least make it to round 8 or 9 before it becomes too much.

He has the punch resistance to go pretty far but he will have been moving and working alot by that point.

[Kev]

I have come to admire adamek but i see it like the majority of the other posters. I dont think adamek will be able to keep vitali off of him and will be dog tired in the later rounds. Him being worn out towards the end will probably result in vitali stopping him.

Completely agree. I admire Adamek too. He's a machine as cutme or sheep used to say. He is a top 20 p4p boxer in my opinion. But, the Vitali is too big of a mountain for him to climb. If he beat Vitali it would a huge shock. Monstrous.

Hell I think at this point in time if Adamek beat Vitali you could consider it one of the biggest upsets of ALL TIME, right up there with Clay-Liston I, Tyson-Douglas, Rahman-Lewis....Vitali hasn't had a truly competitive fight since...well hell since the fight with Lennox Lewis. Corrie Sanders had his moments, but did he win enough rounds against Vitali to consider it a "competitive match"?

I take nothing away away from Adamek, he has really impressed me so far but there's a gigantic gap between The Klitschko's and the rest of the division.

Honestly, I think would be a bigger upset than all of them in reality. Let me explain.

Liston - Clay was an upset only because we didn't know at the time just how good Clay was. As he went on to become the greatest heavyweight in history in retrospect it was no upset. Clay was the best ever. Adamek does not compare to Clay at all. He's a fairly decent blown up cruiser who is fighting competitive fights with mostly fighters outside the top 50 current boxers, Grant, Mcbride, Maddalone etc.

Tyson Douglas. Again a massive upset, but Tyson's life was unravelling. Again in retrospect it wasn't quite that surprising. Tyson's life was collapsing around him, and as we saw later in his career, he was prone to this kind of mental weakness and turmoil. Vitali is not at all, he's an exemplary pro and as mentally stable and grounded as they come.

Rahman Lewis. Again, huge upset but one thing Rahman always had was power. Adamek has never demonstrated that. Vitali's chin has never been questioned and Adamek was unable to finish even Kevin Mcbride, a fighter who hasn't won a fight in 5 years, has been knocked out every time he's stepped up, and was even blown away by Mike Mollo in two rounds.

None of the factors that applied to the upsets mentioned apply to this fight here.

Adamek is not a future all time great in the making, his struggles against the jobbers he's fought so far demonstrate that clearly. Vitali is not the mentally unstable, spiralling Tyson who is about to implode, and Adamek is not a puncher, at all.

He has no chance of out boxing Vitali, and no chance of knocking him out.

Outside of injury this fight is about as close to a certainty as you can get in boxing imo.

[Hulk]

I have come to admire adamek but i see it like the majority of the other posters. I dont think adamek will be able to keep vitali off of him and will be dog tired in the later rounds. Him being worn out towards the end will probably result in vitali stopping him.

Completely agree. I admire Adamek too. He's a machine as cutme or sheep used to say. He is a top 20 p4p boxer in my opinion. But, the Vitali is too big of a mountain for him to climb. If he beat Vitali it would a huge shock. Monstrous.

Hell I think at this point in time if Adamek beat Vitali you could consider it one of the biggest upsets of ALL TIME, right up there with Clay-Liston I, Tyson-Douglas, Rahman-Lewis....Vitali hasn't had a truly competitive fight since...well hell since the fight with Lennox Lewis. Corrie Sanders had his moments, but did he win enough rounds against Vitali to consider it a "competitive match"?

I take nothing away away from Adamek, he has really impressed me so far but there's a gigantic gap between The Klitschko's and the rest of the division.

Honestly, I think would be a bigger upset than all of them in reality. Let me explain.

Liston - Clay was an upset only because we didn't know at the time just how good Clay was. As he went on to become the greatest heavyweight in history in retrospect it was no upset. Clay was the best ever. Adamek does not compare to Clay at all. He's a fairly decent blown up cruiser who is fighting competitive fights with mostly fighters outside the top 50 current boxers, Grant, Mcbride, Maddalone etc.

Tyson Douglas. Again a massive upset, but Tyson's life was unravelling. Again in retrospect it wasn't quite that surprising. Tyson's life was collapsing around him, and as we saw later in his career, he was prone to this kind of mental weakness and turmoil. Vitali is not at all, he's an exemplary pro and as mentally stable and grounded as they come.

Rahman Lewis. Again, huge upset but one thing Rahman always had was power. Adamek has never demonstrated that. Vitali's chin has never been questioned and Adamek was unable to finish even Kevin Mcbride, a fighter who hasn't won a fight in 5 years, has been knocked out every time he's stepped up, and was even blown away by Mike Mollo in two rounds.

None of the factors that applied to the upsets mentioned apply to this fight here.

Adamek is not a future all time great in the making, his struggles against the jobbers he's fought so far demonstrate that clearly. Vitali is not the mentally unstable, spiralling Tyson who is about to implode, and Adamek is not a puncher, at all.

He has no chance of out boxing Vitali, and no chance of knocking him out.

Outside of injury this fight is about as close to a certainty as you can get in boxing imo.

Morales performance against Maidana, and Ishida TKO'n Kirkland were both bigger upsets than if Adamek outpointed an almost 40 year old Vitali.

This is so ridiculious. Vitali is NOT God ! He's a tall, effecient, robotic, awkard, heavyweight who lost to Lennox Lewis on Lewis's worst day and Vitali's best day.

I expect more outta you Bilbo ! We were JFAT Alliance brothers once...to quote ahhnold schwarzenegger from the movie Predator: "You used to be someone I could trust."

[Kev]

I have come to admire adamek but i see it like the majority of the other posters. I dont think adamek will be able to keep vitali off of him and will be dog tired in the later rounds. Him being worn out towards the end will probably result in vitali stopping him.

Completely agree. I admire Adamek too. He's a machine as cutme or sheep used to say. He is a top 20 p4p boxer in my opinion. But, the Vitali is too big of a mountain for him to climb. If he beat Vitali it would a huge shock. Monstrous.

Hell I think at this point in time if Adamek beat Vitali you could consider it one of the biggest upsets of ALL TIME, right up there with Clay-Liston I, Tyson-Douglas, Rahman-Lewis....Vitali hasn't had a truly competitive fight since...well hell since the fight with Lennox Lewis. Corrie Sanders had his moments, but did he win enough rounds against Vitali to consider it a "competitive match"?

I take nothing away away from Adamek, he has really impressed me so far but there's a gigantic gap between The Klitschko's and the rest of the division.

Honestly, I think would be a bigger upset than all of them in reality. Let me explain.

Liston - Clay was an upset only because we didn't know at the time just how good Clay was. As he went on to become the greatest heavyweight in history in retrospect it was no upset. Clay was the best ever. Adamek does not compare to Clay at all. He's a fairly decent blown up cruiser who is fighting competitive fights with mostly fighters outside the top 50 current boxers, Grant, Mcbride, Maddalone etc.

Tyson Douglas. Again a massive upset, but Tyson's life was unravelling. Again in retrospect it wasn't quite that surprising. Tyson's life was collapsing around him, and as we saw later in his career, he was prone to this kind of mental weakness and turmoil. Vitali is not at all, he's an exemplary pro and as mentally stable and grounded as they come.

Rahman Lewis. Again, huge upset but one thing Rahman always had was power. Adamek has never demonstrated that. Vitali's chin has never been questioned and Adamek was unable to finish even Kevin Mcbride, a fighter who hasn't won a fight in 5 years, has been knocked out every time he's stepped up, and was even blown away by Mike Mollo in two rounds.

None of the factors that applied to the upsets mentioned apply to this fight here.

Adamek is not a future all time great in the making, his struggles against the jobbers he's fought so far demonstrate that clearly. Vitali is not the mentally unstable, spiralling Tyson who is about to implode, and Adamek is not a puncher, at all.

He has no chance of out boxing Vitali, and no chance of knocking him out.

Outside of injury this fight is about as close to a certainty as you can get in boxing imo.

Morales performance against Maidana, and Ishida TKO'n Kirkland were both bigger upsets than if Adamek outpointed an almost 40 year old Vitali.

This is so ridiculious. Vitali is NOT God ! He's a tall, effecient, robotic, awkard, heavyweight who lost to Lennox Lewis on Lewis's worst day and Vitali's best day.

I expect more outta you Bilbo ! We were JFAT Alliance brothers once...to quote ahhnold schwarzenegger from the movie Predator: "You used to be someone I could trust."

haha. But Morales is/was an all time great. We just thought he had less left than he did. instead he showed he's still a force against a crude opponent.

But some points. Vitali is a far better and more dominant fighter than Maidana. Adamek is nowhere the caliber of fighter of an Erik Morales, especially in this weight class.

Compare Arreola's fights with Adamek and Vitali. Were it not for his injury against Adamek Arreola could maybe have won that fight. Certainly it was ebb and flow with Adamek being hurt on several occasions.

Vitali just dominated, and i mean utterly, completely dominated him.

Kevin McBride and Michael Grant... Really how many rounds would they last with Vitali? I'd say he'd them both out inside 6 rounds combined.

They were struggles for Adamek.

Putting Adamek in with Vitali is like putting Paulie Malignaggi in with Lucian Bute. There is just no realistic way he can win that fight. He has no power to hurt him, and even though he's a decent boxer he can just be walked through.

I don't expect Adamek to be blown away, just like I wouldn't expect Bute to blow Malignaggi away. They are both tough, skilled fighters who know how to survive. But they are so outsized and understrengthed that they just have no realistic way to win those fights.

[therealremi]

Kevin McBride and Michael Grant... Really how many rounds would they last with Vitali? I'd say he'd them both out inside 6 rounds combined.

They were struggles for Adamek.

Yes, especially Kevin McBride

[Rantcatrat]

I have come to admire adamek but i see it like the majority of the other posters. I dont think adamek will be able to keep vitali off of him and will be dog tired in the later rounds. Him being worn out towards the end will probably result in vitali stopping him.

Completely agree. I admire Adamek too. He's a machine as cutme or sheep used to say. He is a top 20 p4p boxer in my opinion. But, the Vitali is too big of a mountain for him to climb. If he beat Vitali it would a huge shock. Monstrous.

Hell I think at this point in time if Adamek beat Vitali you could consider it one of the biggest upsets of ALL TIME, right up there with Clay-Liston I, Tyson-Douglas, Rahman-Lewis....Vitali hasn't had a truly competitive fight since...well hell since the fight with Lennox Lewis. Corrie Sanders had his moments, but did he win enough rounds against Vitali to consider it a "competitive match"?

I take nothing away away from Adamek, he has really impressed me so far but there's a gigantic gap between The Klitschko's and the rest of the division.

Honestly, I think would be a bigger upset than all of them in reality. Let me explain.

Liston - Clay was an upset only because we didn't know at the time just how good Clay was. As he went on to become the greatest heavyweight in history in retrospect it was no upset. Clay was the best ever. Adamek does not compare to Clay at all. He's a fairly decent blown up cruiser who is fighting competitive fights with mostly fighters outside the top 50 current boxers, Grant, Mcbride, Maddalone etc.

Tyson Douglas. Again a massive upset, but Tyson's life was unravelling. Again in retrospect it wasn't quite that surprising. Tyson's life was collapsing around him, and as we saw later in his career, he was prone to this kind of mental weakness and turmoil. Vitali is not at all, he's an exemplary pro and as mentally stable and grounded as they come.

Rahman Lewis. Again, huge upset but one thing Rahman always had was power. Adamek has never demonstrated that. Vitali's chin has never been questioned and Adamek was unable to finish even Kevin Mcbride, a fighter who hasn't won a fight in 5 years, has been knocked out every time he's stepped up, and was even blown away by Mike Mollo in two rounds.

None of the factors that applied to the upsets mentioned apply to this fight here.

Adamek is not a future all time great in the making, his struggles against the jobbers he's fought so far demonstrate that clearly. Vitali is not the mentally unstable, spiralling Tyson who is about to implode, and Adamek is not a puncher, at all.

He has no chance of out boxing Vitali, and no chance of knocking him out.

Outside of injury this fight is about as close to a certainty as you can get in boxing imo.

Morales performance against Maidana, and Ishida TKO'n Kirkland were both bigger upsets than if Adamek outpointed an almost 40 year old Vitali.

This is so ridiculious. Vitali is NOT God ! He's a tall, effecient, robotic, awkard, heavyweight who lost to Lennox Lewis on Lewis's worst day and Vitali's best day.

I expect more outta you Bilbo ! We were JFAT Alliance brothers once...to quote ahhnold schwarzenegger from the movie Predator: "You used to be someone I could trust."

Agree with Bilbo here. Morales is a future hof. Hanging with Maidana even at 140 is not close to as big of an upset as it would if Adamek beat Vitali. Not even close. Ishida beating Kirkland is not close either because Kirkland is a relatively untested prospect/contender and Ishida is a former title-contender. Morales and Maidana were around the same size in the ring, as were Ishida and Kirkland - in fact, you could probably argue Morales and Ishida were bigger.

Adamek will be outweighed by 40 pounds, is 6 inches shorter than Vitali, and has a much shorter reach. In addition, Vitali has much more experience at heavyweight than Adamek. Vitali was up on the cards against Lennox too when he was counted out because of cuts. Vitali has barely lost a round in TEN years. Adamek has skimmed by on the cards on multiple occasions.

If you are a big Adamek fan, I'm with you, and I'll be rooting for him too, but let's be honest with eachother, he stands really no chance at all. However, that doesn't mean that I don't admire the hell out of him for jumping in with Vitali at the first opportunity he was given. Credit to him in a big way.

[Hulk]

I'm done.

Apparently Vitali is regarded as the greatest heavyweight champion of all time on this forum. To beat him is nothing short of beating God himself...

All I've tried to argue is that Adamek has a 30% chance of upsetting the fucker, yet we have people on here thinking he has a 2% chance or no chance. Its pretty sad to see "boxing fans" think this way.