What's with all these bi-polar people?

[Howlin Mad Missy]

I could tell you some great stories from people who have worked with those in institutions but I dont have time right now

It really can be like 'medication time' from One Flew Over

I've got a mate who works in a nut house and I've had the pleasure of going in one once to see someone I knew who had lost the plot.

It was like walking into something out of resident evil! Zombies everywhere. Actually scared me a little. Some freaky shit!

I have been in a 'nuthouse' once to visit a relative. Everyone seemed normal. I had a nice roast dinner and apple pie. So did they. Only difference was I could leave and they couldn't. (well, not the ONLY difference, but the only visible one).

Andrew Austin is the man. Great stories about how he took the door of the patients smoking area and the staff smoking area..how rather than trying to coax them to take there meds and take a looong 'play the game' as the other nurses did he used to roll out the trolley and ask them what they wanted today, uppers? downers? these ones are a pretty colour, two?three? how about the whole bottle?

Funny thing was they didnt argue, looked at him like he was a nutter and took their meds no problem but of course you can't act that way (why not)

how you'd get a bunch of people sitting round with the dr's & nurses, all with nothing to say being depressed for an hour. Time's up they all wander outside and start chatting about football like regular folk

how when he was observing a schizo rehab meeting - which was patting a balloon to each other (?) when he took over asked who wanted to go to the pub, they all wanted to go - cant do that they're in schizo rehab- going to the pub in clinical world = bad. patting a balloon = good rehab

[ryanman]

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That the tabloids decided to run with the article 'Zeta Jones Bi Polar'

The Sun went with 'Zeta in mental clinic'

haha the sun is truly the worst paper in the world, it's like it's written by adolescent schoolboys for other adolescent schoolboys.

'BONKERS BRUNO LOCKED UP'.
hahaha, the fucking insensitivity! I remember being stunned by that. It cracks me up now though.

[Kev]

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That the tabloids decided to run with the article 'Zeta Jones Bi Polar'

The Sun went with 'Zeta in mental clinic'

haha the sun is truly the worst paper in the world, it's like it's written by adolescent schoolboys for other adolescent schoolboys.

'BONKERS BRUNO LOCKED UP'.
hahaha, the fucking insensitivity! I remember being stunned by that. It cracks me up now though.

Like when they went to town on the 'disgustingly racist' Jade Goody for calling Shilpa Shetty a poppadom and in the exact same issue reported on Chinese snooker sensation Ding Jui with the headline 'Pot Noodle'

Or how their sister paper the News of the world will go undercover to expose the sordid secrets of our celebrities and make the most absurd moral judgements on them and then it turns out that they themselves are all a bunch of illegal phone tapping criminals.

I wish the judges would get tough and ban the Sun and News of the world and stop anyone who works on the papers for ever being involved in 'journalism' again.

[0james0]

I could tell you some great stories from people who have worked with those in institutions but I dont have time right now

It really can be like 'medication time' from One Flew Over

I've got a mate who works in a nut
house and I've had the pleasure of
going in one once to see someone I
knew who had lost the plot.
It was like walking into something
out of resident evil! Zombies
everywhere. Actually scared me a
little. Some freaky shit!

I have been in a 'nuthouse' once to
visit a relative. Everyone seemed
normal. I had a nice roast dinner
and apple pie. So did they. Only
difference was I could leave and
they couldn't. (well, not the ONLY
difference, but the only visible one).

When I went in they were all noticeably crazy. One guy was roaming the corridors asking everyone if they had seen his rabbit (he's been looking daily for 5 years but still not found it!) another women jumped out at me because I was walking on the floor and it was electrocuted! She jumped out of no where and screamed at me to get off the floor! I appreciate she was looking after me, but still, made me jump out my skin. I did decide to resist her offer of walking on chairs and continued to use the electrified floor, I explained I had rubber shoes, but she didn't seem to understand. Probably thought I was nuts!

All genuine stories, there were a couple other odd things that freaked me out on my visit, but I can't remember them now.

It was sad to see, but still bloody scary!

[Gandalf]

Now those people in the nuthouse seem like proper crazy people. That for me is real mental trauma rather than the more superficial designer mental illnesses that seem to be emerging. Looking for a rabbit for a period of 5 years is seriously hardcore. Feeling depressed is nothing when compared with that. The intelligent depressed person probably has the ability to adapt, the rabbit guy is condemned that way for eternity.

Nothing worse than eternally looking for a rabbit IMO. That is beyond existential.

[Gandalf]

Anyway, I am going to go easy on the mentally ill. They have their own lives and they and their loved ones need to do what is right by them. Personally, I find the idea of artificially altering the brain for something like depression quite repellant, but each to their own. To me there is nothing more noble than a troubled mind howling into the wilderness like King Lear. You wouldn't want to imagine him popping some prozac and having a sleep. No, you have to work your own way through these things and though life is tough, that is part of the savage wonder.

It's a beautiful spring day today and I am going to go and look at the lake and see the cherry blossoms. Life is indeed a beautiful thing and I am going to cherish it in all the ways that the mentally ill cannot. If I see a rabbit I shall let it be.

[CFH]

Ok, seriously Bilbo/Miles, it's getting damn tiring of you guys trying to turn every thread into a debate about your respective beliefs regarding God. This is actually a pretty interesting topic & it doesn't need to be about Miles lack of belief in God rather his lack of understanding for people with mental illness. So what if there are some contradictions in it, we're all contradictory in our beliefs.

This x1000. It's seriously fucking annoying, so much so that I almost always automatically stop posting in any thread that you guys turn into a philosophical wack-off contest.

Such intolerance, hostility and anger issues.

To be honest I only really post nowadays to talk to Miles. Post's I'm not interested in I just skip past and ignore.

There are many threads I don't even enter as the subject/poster don't interest me. I don't go in to complain though, that would just be rude.

I wasn't trying to be mean, just honest. It's something that happens in almost every off-topic thread you guys participate in and it has just gotten to be a bit much.

[Gandalf]

To be fair, I am willing to keep to thread topics unless someone else deviates from it. I've no issues with anyone, but can see why me and Bilbo going off on the god thing can seem a bit annoying. We should probably keep all that in some super thread somewhere.

[Kev]

Ok, seriously Bilbo/Miles, it's getting damn tiring of you guys trying to turn every thread into a debate about your respective beliefs regarding God. This is actually a pretty interesting topic & it doesn't need to be about Miles lack of belief in God rather his lack of understanding for people with mental illness. So what if there are some contradictions in it, we're all contradictory in our beliefs.

This x1000. It's seriously fucking annoying, so much so that I almost always automatically stop posting in any thread that you guys turn into a philosophical wack-off contest.

Such intolerance, hostility and anger issues.

To be honest I only really post nowadays to talk to Miles. Post's I'm not interested in I just skip past and ignore.

There are many threads I don't even enter as the subject/poster don't interest me. I don't go in to complain though, that would just be rude.

I wasn't trying to be mean, just honest. It's something that happens in almost every off-topic thread you guys participate in and it has just gotten to be a bit much.

Fair enough, actually you're never really a rude person just very blunt sometimes.

Also I've had a niggle with you ever since you reprimanded for my calling a Japanese man by an abbrievated form. I know you edited it afterwards but the veiled banning threat made me simmer slighty as I was thinking to myself how many fucking years have you known me to suddenly suggest I might have a racist attitude towards the Japanese? I mean it's not like I create threads weekly about their imperialistic aggression or right to exist...

And then the site went down and I checked with downforeveryoneorjustme.com and it said the site was up so I thought you might actually have banned me.

I almost had a Miles moment when he had his second mental breakdown on Saddo's after Youngblood stealth sad clicked (his first being the Yuri Forman incident) and I was thinking what I could do to express my righteous indignation. And all I could think was unfriending you on facebook so that you would feel the loss. And then I thought you might not even notice and it would get to me if you didn't mention it and I'd end up being tormented about why you didn't notice and refriend request me.

And then the site came back and I realised you hadn't banned me after all and I was annoyed because I had invested a lot of energy into the fall out in my head and didn't want to give it up.

So I when you called me boring I thought it was an opportunity to be beligerrent and tetchy and maybe have a public spat. But then you went and followed up in a sane and non hostille way and took the wind out of my sails a bit and now I'm not sure that you are so unreasonable after all.

But I'm still a bit tetchy and annoyed that once again I wasted energy on an imaginary feud in my head

[Youngblood]

Anyway, I am going to go easy on the mentally ill. They have their own lives and they and their loved ones need to do what is right by them. Personally, I find the idea of artificially altering the brain for something like depression quite repellant, but each to their own. To me there is nothing more noble than a troubled mind howling into the wilderness like King Lear. You wouldn't want to imagine him popping some prozac and having a sleep. No, you have to work your own way through these things and though life is tough, that is part of the savage wonder.

It's a beautiful spring day today and I am going to go and look at the lake and see the cherry blossoms. Life is indeed a beautiful thing and I am going to cherish it in all the ways that the mentally ill cannot. If I see a rabbit I shall let it be.

lol miles. this is probably this first ever funny post I've read from you. It is either your best ever tongue in cheek work, or the words of someone closing in on the step off time.

[Gandalf]

Anyway, I am going to go easy on the mentally ill. They have their own lives and they and their loved ones need to do what is right by them. Personally, I find the idea of artificially altering the brain for something like depression quite repellant, but each to their own. To me there is nothing more noble than a troubled mind howling into the wilderness like King Lear. You wouldn't want to imagine him popping some prozac and having a sleep. No, you have to work your own way through these things and though life is tough, that is part of the savage wonder.

It's a beautiful spring day today and I am going to go and look at the lake and see the cherry blossoms. Life is indeed a beautiful thing and I am going to cherish it in all the ways that the mentally ill cannot. If I see a rabbit I shall let it be.

lol miles. this is probably this first ever funny post I've read from you. It is either your best ever tongue in cheek work, or the words of someone closing in on the step off time.

Oh, come now, dear child, I am sure there has to be at least one other funny post out there somewhere. Intended to be funny, but also a seriousness lurking beneath. King Lear is one of my favourite Shakespeare plays, a might fine piece of work by the immortal bard. King Lear is Shakespeare's very own wheatfields and the crows.

As an aside, Bilbo's last post has me convinced that he is bi-polar as well.

[Kev]

Anyway, I am going to go easy on the mentally ill. They have their own lives and they and their loved ones need to do what is right by them. Personally, I find the idea of artificially altering the brain for something like depression quite repellant, but each to their own. To me there is nothing more noble than a troubled mind howling into the wilderness like King Lear. You wouldn't want to imagine him popping some prozac and having a sleep. No, you have to work your own way through these things and though life is tough, that is part of the savage wonder.

It's a beautiful spring day today and I am going to go and look at the lake and see the cherry blossoms. Life is indeed a beautiful thing and I am going to cherish it in all the ways that the mentally ill cannot. If I see a rabbit I shall let it be.

lol miles. this is probably this first ever funny post I've read from you. It is either your best ever tongue in cheek work, or the words of someone closing in on the step off time.

Oh, come now, dear child, I am sure there has to be at least one other funny post out there somewhere. Intended to be funny, but also a seriousness lurking beneath. King Lear is one of my favourite Shakespeare plays, a might fine piece of work by the immortal bard. King Lear is Shakespeare's very own wheatfields and the crows.

As an aside, Bilbo's last post has me convinced that he is bi-polar as well.

I think that's a fairly reasonable assessment..

[Youngblood]

just a foot note to this thread,

There is such a vast difference between depression which so many experience, know and understand, to which you most certainly fit all the criteria for being familiar with miles, and bi polar, which is depression and sanity's evil counterpart, via gross psychosis often in the name of mania. They almost shouldn't even be discussed within the same parameters.

[CFH]

Ok, seriously Bilbo/Miles, it's getting damn tiring of you guys trying to turn every thread into a debate about your respective beliefs regarding God. This is actually a pretty interesting topic & it doesn't need to be about Miles lack of belief in God rather his lack of understanding for people with mental illness. So what if there are some contradictions in it, we're all contradictory in our beliefs.

This x1000. It's seriously fucking annoying, so much so that I almost always automatically stop posting in any thread that you guys turn into a philosophical wack-off contest.

Such intolerance, hostility and anger issues.

To be honest I only really post nowadays to talk to Miles. Post's I'm not interested in I just skip past and ignore.

There are many threads I don't even enter as the subject/poster don't interest me. I don't go in to complain though, that would just be rude.

I wasn't trying to be mean, just honest. It's something that happens in almost every off-topic thread you guys participate in and it has just gotten to be a bit much.

Fair enough, actually you're never really a rude person just very blunt sometimes.

Also I've had a niggle with you ever since you reprimanded for my calling a Japanese man by an abbrievated form. I know you edited it afterwards but the veiled banning threat made me simmer slighty as I was thinking to myself how many fucking years have you known me to suddenly suggest I might have a racist attitude towards the Japanese? I mean it's not like I create threads weekly about their imperialistic aggression or right to exist...

And then the site went down and I checked with downforeveryoneorjustme.com and it said the site was up so I thought you might actually have banned me.

I almost had a Miles moment when he had his second mental breakdown on Saddo's after Youngblood stealth sad clicked (his first being the Yuri Forman incident) and I was thinking what I could do to express my righteous indignation. And all I could think was unfriending you on facebook so that you would feel the loss. And then I thought you might not even notice and it would get to me if you didn't mention it and I'd end up being tormented about why you didn't notice and refriend request me.

And then the site came back and I realised you hadn't banned me after all and I was annoyed because I had invested a lot of energy into the fall out in my head and didn't want to give it up.

So I when you called me boring I thought it was an opportunity to be beligerrent and tetchy and maybe have a public spat. But then you went and followed up in a sane and non hostille way and took the wind out of my sails a bit and now I'm not sure that you are so unreasonable after all.

But I'm still a bit tetchy and annoyed that once again I wasted energy on an imaginary feud in my head

Go fuck yourself. That make you feel better?

I wasn't outright threatening to ban you per se, I was just saying that anyone who persists in using racist terms would be banned, including long-term members like yourself. I know you didn't intend it to be racist, which is why I edited my post, but it is a term with a long, racist history behind it.

It's funny you'd call me 'blunt' on here, because I often find myself wishing I could be more blunt in real life. Maybe that just comes out on here.

Anyways, before I make myself a total hypocrite by completely derailing this thread, I would like to add that anyone who depression, anxiety, bi-polar disorder, or any mental health problems are not serious and can just be shaken off or whatever are stuck in the dark ages and they can fuck right off. The widespread nature of those types of attitudes keep people from getting the help they need and this leads directly to a low quality of life for mentally ill people and even death.

And I didn't call you boring, I called you (and Miles) annoying.

[CFH]

Anyway, I am going to go easy on the mentally ill. They have their own lives and they and their loved ones need to do what is right by them. Personally, I find the idea of artificially altering the brain for something like depression quite repellant, but each to their own. To me there is nothing more noble than a troubled mind howling into the wilderness like King Lear. You wouldn't want to imagine him popping some prozac and having a sleep. No, you have to work your own way through these things and though life is tough, that is part of the savage wonder.

It's a beautiful spring day today and I am going to go and look at the lake and see the cherry blossoms. Life is indeed a beautiful thing and I am going to cherish it in all the ways that the mentally ill cannot. If I see a rabbit I shall let it be.

lol miles. this is probably this first ever funny post I've read from you. It is either your best ever tongue in cheek work, or the words of someone closing in on the step off time.

Oh, come now, dear child, I am sure there has to be at least one other funny post out there somewhere. Intended to be funny, but also a seriousness lurking beneath. King Lear is one of my favourite Shakespeare plays, a might fine piece of work by the immortal bard. King Lear is Shakespeare's very own wheatfields and the crows.

As an aside, Bilbo's last post has me convinced that he is bi-polar as well.

Shakespeare fucking blows.