Manny is a buster for taking these fights

[mafiajoey]

Gotta leave Floyd out of the picture cause Manny has fights already set up before the one in front of him is even over. So he can avoid the whole drug test demand. I think Pac and Martinez would be an awesome fight...I don't know why the Pac fans are doubting him so much. I think Pac performs even greater when hes getting hit and not just at a sparring session with a left over fighter. Let me guess...Pac will beat JMM then he will fight Judah. And everyone will buy into it because Pac fans only care that Pac beat guys Floyd beat prior. Because this is how they justify this shit to themselves.

[Snakey]

Margarito was never a 160 pound fighter I believe. So it's expected that Manny should jump up another 2 weight division to fight Martinez at 160? And that's considered to be a fair fight? BTW, Martinez is on record saying that he can't get below MW, so the fight will have to happen at 160.

Btw a few weeks ago I did mentioned since Martinez can't find a challenge at 160 maybe he should move up to fight Andre Ward at 168 or another top 168 pounder. You know what the response was? The response was that it would be an unfair fight for Martinez to fight Ward, Bute, Froch, Kessler. And that it was a retarded idea. But it's an fair fight for Martinez to fight either Manny or Floyd at 160. hahahaha

Sorry just to clarify as I didnt realise I missed this - I think if Manny could go to 154 and make a deal to fight against Sergio there then that would be fine. No i dont expect him to go up to 160, I agree that would be too much.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

Gotta leave Floyd out of the picture cause Manny has fights already set up before the one in front of him is even over. So he can avoid the whole drug test demand. I think Pac and Martinez would be an awesome fight...I don't know why the Pac fans are doubting him so much. I think Pac performs even greater when hes getting hit and not just at a sparring session with a left over fighter. Let me guess...Pac will beat JMM then he will fight Judah. And everyone will buy into it because Pac fans only care that Pac beat guys Floyd beat prior. Because this is how they justify this shit to themselves.

Awesome fight in what way? In a way that you know Martinez has all the advantages to brutalize Manny which proves that you're a pachater or you think that it's competitive which makes you a worse pacnuthugger. But everyone knows that your reasoning is not the later. Even the Pacfans acknowledges his limitations.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

P.S.

I love how the Pac fans keep saying he would have to jump two more divisions and this and that and 160lbs. Nobody is saying 160lbs. Sergio said he couldn't do 150lbs I think they meet at 154lbs. It could happen. But Pac will make an excuse. And instead of hitting this question dead on most of the Pac fans will reply with an answer that involves Floyds name somehow lol

Fine, make it ONE more division. It changes the argument not one whit.

Name me ten men in history who have succeeded across even ten of today's equivalents.

Mafiajoey, we are still waiting for your response to this.

[fan johnny]

Pac vs Martinez, I bet Arum is secretly licking his lips. I'd love to see Pacquiao give it a go. I wouldn't expect him to survive too many big hits but I'd love to see him go at it.

[frasd]

I firmly believe that Pac is ducking Klitchko as well.

[Manju]

I firmly believe that Pac is ducking Klitchko as well.

Heh, Heh, Heh

[fan johnny]

This fight is at 144, the weight they both weigh come fight night will not be much different to when they fought last time. Pac was 145 and JMM 141 fight night in 2008.

Yeah I'd just like to see them go through the motions of dehydrating and making 135 so the lineal title was on the line. Could add a little spice.

Fuk that! I want to see the best Marquez and the best Pacquiao go at it!

Why would you think that wouldn't produce the best? JMM is a 135 right and Manny only weighs on fight night what most top lightweights weigh anyway. I think Manny can make 135 without any diminution in performance.

agreed. He could make 135. he eats up all the way up to the weigh in. He drinks all the way up to the weigh in. He only weighed 3 pounds more against Cheato (in the ring) than when he made 130 against Marquez the last time.

of course, that would make too much sense. Imagine all the dumb ass boxing writers who would be saying it was a mistake for him to go down in weight (when the man really didn't go up in weight).

You think? It IS because having to de-hydrate and then re-hydrate takes away energy that can be used in the fight. It also reduces the amount of water around the brain providing protection thus the reason for the 24 hour weigh-in. Coming into the ring at the natural weight is optimum. No excuses.

[marbleheadmaui]

This fight is at 144, the weight they both weigh come fight night will not be much different to when they fought last time. Pac was 145 and JMM 141 fight night in 2008.

Yeah I'd just like to see them go through the motions of dehydrating and making 135 so the lineal title was on the line. Could add a little spice.

Fuk that! I want to see the best Marquez and the best Pacquiao go at it!

Why would you think that wouldn't produce the best? JMM is a 135 right and Manny only weighs on fight night what most top lightweights weigh anyway. I think Manny can make 135 without any diminution in performance.

agreed. He could make 135. he eats up all the way up to the weigh in. He drinks all the way up to the weigh in. He only weighed 3 pounds more against Cheato (in the ring) than when he made 130 against Marquez the last time.

of course, that would make too much sense. Imagine all the dumb ass boxing writers who would be saying it was a mistake for him to go down in weight (when the man really didn't go up in weight).

You think? It IS because having to de-hydrate and then re-hydrate takes away energy that can be used in the fight. It also reduces the amount of water around the brain providing protection thus the reason for the 24 hour weigh-in. Coming into the ring at the natural weight is optimum. No excuses.

I diagree with your above when someone has more than 24 hours to recover. But more importantly you leave out the other side of the equation. If fighter A doesn't cut and Fighter B does and they both just make the (for the sake of argument) 147 limit 24+ hours before? The necessarily means Fighter A is going to be the smaller man in the ring during the fight by what? ten pounds or so and maybe more? My point is thewre is a cost involved. Now that's a general point that I don't think applies in the specific JMM-Manny case.