Boxing Forums



User Tag List

Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Dislikes Dislikes:  0
Page 4 of 6 FirstFirst ... 23456 LastLast
Results 46 to 60 of 86

Thread: Tommy Morrison Excusive interview part 2

Share/Bookmark
  1. #46
    El Kabong Guest

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by russ010 View Post

    In terms of changing the world I just believed that he would have been a great World Champion that would have had a great career with fights against many great fighters.
    He got smashed badly by Lennox Lewis. And Lennox Lewis was just barely coming into his own. I don't see how Morrison had any chance against him. I don't see Morrison beating any of the top fighters from that time. Holyfield, Bowe, Golota and Tyson all beat him. That jaw of his just had to much glass in it
    While Morrison did lose to Lennox Lewis he outboxed Foreman, he stopped Ruddock, and this is just my opinion Tommy had a hell of a shot to beat Bowe, I'm 100% certain he had the style to beat Golota, and he could have had a good go at Moorer too. I think in his day he would have given a poorly trained Tyson to task..don't know who'd win, I'd lean towards Tyson.

    As for the HIV/AIDS conspiracy theory, I just don't buy it, its too far fetched.

  2. #47
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Posts
    11,430
    Mentioned
    26 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    2082
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Tommy Morrison Excusive interview part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by boxingbantz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Who is perpetrating the myth that Tommy has aids when he doesn't... and what are they gaining from it?

    Sorry but I just don't see a motive.
    Someone who didn't like Rocky V?
    Maybe it was union kane?!

  3. #48
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Posts
    24
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Tommy Morrison Excusive interview part 2

    I have just emailed Tommy with the questions provided by "nameless" answers posted shortly

  4. #49
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    13
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Tommy Morrison Excusive interview part 2

    Tommy's comeback fight was against my instructor John Castle. I don't know why John took the risk of fighting him.

  5. #50
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Posts
    24
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Tommy Morrison Excusive interview part 2

    Answers to "nameless"
    Good questions nameless.

    1)There are 80 non contagious ailments that are detected in the elisa and the western blot tests. (Russ list them plz-if you don't have the list I will resend).including toe fungus/lupus/h1n1 shot etc ect. The manufacturers state in their disclaimers in their test packets that their tests do NOT detect hiv infection. !! I have NEVER been tested for HIV infection nor HIV VIRUS. Find me the test and I will take it.

    2) Robert Gallo is the so called inventor of HIV. In his words it is a human immune deficiency virus. So why can DOGS test positive on those 2 tests? Why is Robert Gallo not responding to my 205 days of asking him direct for the hiv virus test? If you want to call it a conspiracy go ahead. Scientists and doctors call it a medical fraud. If you had discovered/invented a virus would you not be willing to show people what it looked like?

    3) Never refused to take a test to confirm the presence or absence of a contagious virus in Montreal. In fact I delayed my flight in canada-had a press conference-invited the media-invited Dr Wainberg from montreal to bring me the test and it would be televised. I emailed the montreal commission 3 times for the virus test. They never responded-the dr wainberg never showed. Be happy to forward you the emails.

    4) If you have seen the actual contagious hiv virus and have proof of its existense and photos/ems of it from the human body- then send it to me. Send me the scientific papers showing the methods used to discover the virus. Gallo only completed 3 steps of isolation/purification. There are 7 scientific steps. Gallo forged the papers. If you want I can email them. Dated 1984.
    What you are seeing are the side effects of the toxic medication that people are being given. The side effects are his version of his symptoms of the hypothetical hiv.
    That "impossible to detect virus" - show it to me then. All the images on google/utube/gettys are computer generated and are not from a human being.

    One for you:
    Rather than be "nameless" - come out in the open. What do you have to hide?
    Email me direct if you want I have the facts. I am living proof.
    Get me the hiv virus test that detects 100percent the presence or absence of an active contagious human virus and a photo/em of what it really looks like.

    Nameless - I fought in 06/07/08/09 - so why not in 2010 and beyond?

  6. #51
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    9,794
    Mentioned
    21 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1417
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Tommy Morrison Excusive interview part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by russ010 View Post
    Answers to "nameless"
    Good questions nameless.

    1)There are 80 non contagious ailments that are detected in the elisa and the western blot tests. (Russ list them plz-if you don't have the list I will resend).including toe fungus/lupus/h1n1 shot etc ect. The manufacturers state in their disclaimers in their test packets that their tests do NOT detect hiv infection. !! I have NEVER been tested for HIV infection nor HIV VIRUS. Find me the test and I will take it.

    2) Robert Gallo is the so called inventor of HIV. In his words it is a human immune deficiency virus. So why can DOGS test positive on those 2 tests? Why is Robert Gallo not responding to my 205 days of asking him direct for the hiv virus test? If you want to call it a conspiracy go ahead. Scientists and doctors call it a medical fraud. If you had discovered/invented a virus would you not be willing to show people what it looked like?

    3) Never refused to take a test to confirm the presence or absence of a contagious virus in Montreal. In fact I delayed my flight in canada-had a press conference-invited the media-invited Dr Wainberg from montreal to bring me the test and it would be televised. I emailed the montreal commission 3 times for the virus test. They never responded-the dr wainberg never showed. Be happy to forward you the emails.

    4) If you have seen the actual contagious hiv virus and have proof of its existense and photos/ems of it from the human body- then send it to me. Send me the scientific papers showing the methods used to discover the virus. Gallo only completed 3 steps of isolation/purification. There are 7 scientific steps. Gallo forged the papers. If you want I can email them. Dated 1984.
    What you are seeing are the side effects of the toxic medication that people are being given. The side effects are his version of his symptoms of the hypothetical hiv.
    That "impossible to detect virus" - show it to me then. All the images on google/utube/gettys are computer generated and are not from a human being.

    One for you:
    Rather than be "nameless" - come out in the open. What do you have to hide?
    Email me direct if you want I have the facts. I am living proof.
    Get me the hiv virus test that detects 100percent the presence or absence of an active contagious human virus and a photo/em of what it really looks like.

    Nameless - I fought in 06/07/08/09 - so why not in 2010 and beyond?
    Can you ask Tommy if he has considered fighting in MMA again ? Perhaps they would have less stringent tests and there could be a good pay day in it. Mercer and Toney have tried MMA recently. Hell Butterbean has made a career out of it.

    Also is Tommy still doing boxing seminars ? I remember a year ago or so he was doing one in Livermore, CA. I thought about going as its only a couple of hours away, but I didn't. I should have.
    "You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"

  7. #52
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Brack Vegas
    Posts
    1,399
    Mentioned
    9 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1119
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Tommy Morrison Excusive interview part 2

    I'm not trying to add spark to the already big flame but I thought that the swine flu was abit of a fraud....everyone diganosed had to take this new form of VACINATION which mysteriously materialised within weeks to stop the epidemic....even people who didn't get it were incouraged to take the medicine.....I didn't incourage my family to take this medicine cause I DO NOT TRUST IT.....don't be surprised people getting really terrible side affects from this SO CALLED SWINE FLU VACINATION in years to come....and I can see where Tommy Morrison is coming from....NO EVIDENCE that HIV exists......and the VACINATION is DANGEROUS and causes very bad side effects...and KILLS!!!


    Job Biscuit (Sometimes you have to ask yourself.....who makes the decisions)!!!


    eh eh!!
    It's nice to see you to see you nice

  8. #53
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    On the levee
    Posts
    47,075
    Mentioned
    438 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    5123
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Tommy Morrison Excusive interview part 2

    Tell Tommy he was fun to watch, and thanks for the memories. Something is clearly causing mass degeneration though and he-you need to spend less time on websites but spend time with family...I would anyway.

    At the end of the day it doesn't matter 'what' he has...it ain't good. Not at all.

  9. #54
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    4,900
    Mentioned
    84 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    903
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Tommy Morrison Excusive interview part 2

    all this is very thrilling and exciting! i'm honored as a saddo member to be chosen by tommy to be involved in this exclusive expose and the heated debate it's generated. but, i wonder what tommy is trying to achieve. is it to get the chance to fight again? is it to reveal to the world the lies thrust upon the public generating hysteria and paranoia?

    how many test has tommy had i wonder... was it just the one?

    if he is in fact interested in clearing his name... all he'd have to do is have another test done; (or several if need be). with the media aware of his new test(s) and subsequent negative result(s) he would surely be allowed to box again. after all, it was a failed test that derailed his career... surely several passed tests would allow him to have his license restored and allow him to rejuvenate his career...

    but instead he chooses to focus on the debate over whether the virus exists at all... something that he cannot prove, nor, should he prove his point, would grant him the return of his boxing license.

    there in lies the problem that i believe most of the saddo-ers are trouble with. there seems to be an easy way to deal with the issue; if tommy is trying to revive his career...but if he's trying to expose a conspiracy or reveal a cover-up to the citizens of this planet...maybe trying to get fights in other countries, hoping their governing bodies are more lax or lenient, doesn't really help his case. there's certainly a better place than a boxing forum to have this discussion.

    and so... i think its fair to say that nobody wants tommy to have hiv aids or any illness. but, faced with what we now know about his situation, based on his actions as well as the information given by doctors and health agencies around the world; we'd rather not have tommy participate in activities that may put other people's heath at risk...whether there is a test that 100% confirms aids & hiv or not.

    i'd still like to know if russ would voluntarily take a blood transfusion from tommy...if he'd do me the honor of answering my question.

  10. #55
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    1,949
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    915
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Tommy Morrison Excusive interview part 2

    "Russ" - you still haven't addressed the lesions on his body which is a common sign of the bug. Or the dramatic weight loss...
    Hidden Content

    www.twitter.com/BoxingBantz

  11. #56
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Montreal/Luxembourg
    Posts
    6,399
    Mentioned
    25 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1075
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Tommy Morrison Excusive interview part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Otley View Post
    I'm not trying to add spark to the already big flame but I thought that the swine flu was abit of a fraud....everyone diganosed had to take this new form of VACINATION which mysteriously materialised within weeks to stop the epidemic....even people who didn't get it were incouraged to take the medicine.....I didn't incourage my family to take this medicine cause I DO NOT TRUST IT.....don't be surprised people getting really terrible side affects from this SO CALLED SWINE FLU VACINATION in years to come....and I can see where Tommy Morrison is coming from....NO EVIDENCE that HIV exists......and the VACINATION is DANGEROUS and causes very bad side effects...and KILLS!!!


    Job Biscuit (Sometimes you have to ask yourself.....who makes the decisions)!!!


    eh eh!!
    There is a difference between detecting AIDS and taking an injection not to get Swine Flu (which I got 3 years ago btw and am not dead from it). Nowaday, they make 3-4 different tests on the person to make sure she's infected/not, chances that it detects something that doesn,t exist (compared to the 80th where they didn't have the technology/multiple tests we have now) are something like one chance over 150 000... so let's say... lidicrously low. Now somebody rich could make the test 2 times with 2 different agencies and you'd drop your chances that both are wrong to like one out of more than one million...

    "the use of repeatedly reactive enzyme immunoassay followed by confirmatory Western blot or immunofluorescent assay remains the standard method for diagnosing HIV-1 infection. A large study of HIV testing in 752 U.S. laboratories reported a sensitivity of 99.7% and specificity of 98.5% for enzyme immunoassay, and studies in U.S. blood donors reported specificities of 99.8% and greater than 99.99%. With confirmatory Western blot, the chance of a false-positive identification in a low-prevalence setting is about 1 in 250 000 (95% CI, 1 in 173 000 to 1 in 379 000)"

    Source by independant scientists from the annals of medical researches: http://www.annals.org/content/143/1/55.full

    So, to take back some of Tommy's counter arguments:

    1) What you describe as "un-accurate" tests was what we ha at the beginning of the 90th". nowaday tests are VERY precise, especially the crossing between ELISA test combined with the nucleic testing all at once. When the test has less than 0.5% of being wrong (with the crossed method), I doubt you can say that it is impossible to detect with a good accuracy.

    2) In montreal you refused a blood draw and to provide conclusive documentation: our commision has been clear on the subject and we have some extremely qualified and neutral pros on the matter, if you want to fight on our land, it is to you to take the tests where the commision works and not to decide of the terms of how it should be conduced.

    3) People die from AIDS, not necessarily from the treatment. I knew one guy who got AIDS, he got diagnosticated from it after he got tested for repeated unexplained infections. Once he got it, he decided to live fully and to not make the costy treatments and died of it a few years later. It is not exactly the "medicine anti aids" that did kill him.

    4) I have nothing to hide, I have no name as alias here, is that worst than those who use a forum name like "redbaron, Bilbo, MAster" or any other forum name? ALso, it has nothing to do with being tested for a disease, the day I'll want to climb into the ring, I'll accept any damn medical tests they want to screen me with to assure the security of my opponent... as long as the other one is tested too for my own security in return.
    Hidden Content
    That's the way it is, not the way it ends

  12. #57
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    4,900
    Mentioned
    84 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    903
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Tommy Morrison Excusive interview part 2


  13. #58
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Posts
    11,430
    Mentioned
    26 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    2082
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Tommy Morrison Excusive interview part 2

    'Russ' could you 'email tommy' and ask him about the lesions/weight loss/pec implant scars that he has?

  14. #59
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    England
    Posts
    5,980
    Mentioned
    49 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1036
    Cool Clicks

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    'Russ' could you 'email tommy' and ask him about the lesions/weight loss/pec implant scars that he has?
    Brilliant question. Bet he wont answer that one though

  15. #60
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Posts
    11,430
    Mentioned
    26 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    2082
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Tommy Morrison Excusive interview part 2


Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

     

Similar Threads

  1. Did Tommy Morrison NOT have HIV?
    By Douglas in forum Boxing Talk
    Replies: 30
    Last Post: 04-27-2010, 07:01 PM
  2. tommy morrison
    By iceman in forum Ask the Trainer
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 06-11-2008, 01:10 PM
  3. is it me or does tommy morrison look ill?
    By themusic in forum Boxing Talk
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 06-21-2007, 02:35 AM
  4. Tommy Morrison
    By benjamming554 in forum Boxing Talk
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 10-29-2006, 07:04 AM
  5. Replies: 7
    Last Post: 07-29-2006, 09:40 AM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  




Boxing | Boxing Photos | Boxing News | Boxing Forum | Boxing Rankings

Copyright © 2000 - 2025 Saddo Boxing - Boxing