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Lewis was and is one of the Greatest heavyweights in history....he beat everyone he fought and would have beaten Wlad much easier if he had trained for him when they fought...Wlad did very well against Lewis due to a few factors

1. Lewis was suppose to fight someone easier that night
2. Lewis under trained
3. Lewis was in that retirement zone

fact is Wlad would have had a very hard nite if Lewis was at his best....Lewis is a true Great and the Klits ARE NOT

job biscuit (anyone got a punture repair kit)!!!

eh eh!!
sorry but Ocean's Eleven wasn't a real fight, Vitali fought Lewis, Wlad didn't, and you can make as many excuses as you want for Lennox but Vitali was getting the best of him once the stoppage came along, and although Lewis has a good resume, the Klitschko's have cleaned out the HW division Lewis did not, he didn't fight other top guys like Ruiz, Byrd, Toney, etc. at the end of his career, and when finally someone was able to go tooth and nail with him he decided to quit, the fact that Vitali retired and came back to have the post retirement career he has against mostly top opposition put's him on par with ANY recent HW champ including Lewis same goes for Wlad
Look at their faces at the end of that fight and then repeat that comment with a straight face.

Technically, yes Vitali was ahead in rounds on the judges scorecards, but Lewis inflicted so much damage that Vitali needed something like 50 stitches and could not continue. That, for me, is far more of an indicator that the round score after 6 rounds in showing who was winiing/won that fight.

And to suggest that Byrd and Ruiz and former 160 pound James Toney were better than the likes of Morrison, McCall, Tua, Tucker, Mercer, a Golota that had just taken Bowe to pieces twice, is laughable
don't really see how it's laughable, seeing how both Ruiz and Byrd did a hell of a lot more than Haye, yet everyone kept trying to play him up as if it was a must do fight for Wlad, whose resume is already stacked, lets face it apart from an old Holyfield, the heavies that Lewis pounded out are just as mediocre as the ones that Wlad and Vitali have stopped, Tua never even won a title hell his ONLY title shot was against Lewis, and well McCall, Morrison, Tucker, Mercer, and well Golota are the Arreola, Chagaev, Haye, Peter, Brewster, and McCline of yesteryear, they did enough to win or challenge for belts yet when they fought actual talent they were stomped

IMO Lewis and ATG don't go together, he doesn't even crack my top 10 yet neither do the Klitschko's

i agree with what you have said in your first paragraph

not even putting lewis in the top 10 all time is a bit daft tho

if you put fighters of latter eras in with fighters of earlier ones then it wouldnt be that fair because the latter eras have the benefits of nutrician and science and evolving techniques and all the experience of yester-years battles, that said maybe this is an unfair statement but

lewis would have beaten all fighters in his history, him on his day them on theirs

Im not saying that to be a biast brit, i dont even count lewis as a true brit

the only fighters in history who would challenge lewis for the best in history would be the klits