Interesting reading.

I was just curious really. I read my media everyday and see things around me and just wonder what the deal is for real folks on here.

Andre sounds like he's done very well for himself and so he he should being one of the more mature adventurers on here. Also good to hear that Big H is taking control and that Adam is becoming entrepreneurial too.

In my early 20's I was a bit like Big H and owed a fair bit and had nothing, but with a lot of hard work over the years and a serious mental overhaul I have eradicated the entire concept of debt and it just frustrates me when I read articles talking about the issue.

I drive a second hand car because I am not shallow enough to think that a new one really matters beyond getting to a destination, but it seems too many are stuck in the vain pursuit of empty consumerist goals at the expense of any guarantee of a decent old age. Governments are supporting very little when we are old and it's good to wise up to that sooner rather than later. And governments play the same game at the expense of younger generations when it comes to their own borrowing. It's quite sickening really.

A life without debt is the first aim for anyone and to then to try and at least guarantee some kind of future without government interference. Only then is anyone somewhat free. Government insurances are ponzi schemes that could collapse at any time. As are currencies too. They are worthless according to the whims of any government.

I started a thread an age back wondering if gold was the way to go for investment. The price has rocketed! I never invested and that frustrates me a fair bit, because I would have done well. Currencies are more kamikaze than ever. I am deviating from the thread somewhat, but just contemplating my own missed opportunities, which are on the whole, careful, but perhaps too careful.