Quote Originally Posted by shza
Quote Originally Posted by gbrandon

True, but these last two fights were no where near the level of a prime Vargas, this was not the same fighter who fought Tito and Oscar
Exactly - this was the true, fatass, good-but-not-great vargas, as opposed to the cheating, steroid Vargas of "prime." I admit that he's better with the juice.

Fighters that have brutal battles wash up quick, we can list plenty of them (David Reid, Meldric Taylor etc) it's how you respond to that, Fernando showed alot of heart throughout his career and he was at his best when he fought Trinidad, even though he lost he gave Tito hell. And he did not test positive for steriods in that fight. I am not a fan of his but I respect him and some of these comments written on this thread about him are bias. Before he fought Oscar and tested positive for steriods he had showed signs of slowing down against journeyman and that was three years ago, I can't believe a pair of losses at this stage of his career is so amazing to people. He put his career on the line at a young age against Tito and he came up short but at least he did not fade away like David Reid.