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The thing is Hagler did struglle with ray, and jones was as fast if no faster, much bigger and packed a helluva punch, i don see marvin doing anything, i know marvin wasnt at his peak yet but still.
peak yet? Marvin had already passed his peak when he fought Leonard, and it was more a case of Hagler not stepping on the gas early enough rather than him really struggling with Ray's speed or movement, cause once he began to cut off the ring he was able to pressure Leonard effectively, also Ray was a better technician than Jones, and IMO had better foot movement, so you can't really compare those two or use that fight as reference, if anything use the Hearns opening round minus Tommy's chin, Tommy being a big tall rangy fighter was able to thwart Hagler and baffle him a bit fighting him from a distance potshotting him, but as he did there IMO he will still grind down his opponent and hit him where ever he can, body and head, if Jones would be able to keep his distance and counter effectively well then he could very well win a decision, but if he tried to go toe to toe with Hagler IMO it would be his downfall

Sorry thats what i meant, he was passed his peak, but i dont think jones would tradde with him, i go back to the toney fight, jones fought a disciplined fight, and i think he would do the same against hagler, and very few fighters had better foot movement then jones in his prime, i think we mystify past greats with this unbeatable aura and its just not so, jones i think was too much for anyfighter at 160-168