Quote Originally Posted by galaxy76
Toney's a former super-middle who is fighting & beating heavys. Atleast he has brought some interest to the division. Wlad ain't got no stamina or chin. Toney would beat him bad or knock him out.
Toney who? because I know you don't mean JAMES Toney because if you are you obviously rate his wins over Holyfield, Booker, and Guinn a lot higher than any of Wlad's performances.

Yes Wlad lost to Purrity, yes he lost to Sanders and Brewster and had a Techincal Decision vs Williamson

I try not to overrate his victories but you can learn a lot from his losses which is definantly why he's the best heavyweight...he's never been outpointed, he's gotten better at defense, he's paced himself a lot better, and his jab and hooking off the jab are better weapons than anything James Toney can muster....at heavyweight James is defense defense defense and when was the last time a great fighter at heavyweight used better defense to dominate more so than better offense?

Wlad's offense is his defense and I rate him as one of the better champions Europe/Russia has produced