This is just a thread diversion anyway. I was given some crap about why Lydon and Morrissey are poor and then criticized for my defense and yet all I see from the two attackers is 'Dad' and nobody else as someone to look up to.

I offered names and all anyone else does is say that you are wrong and call you out for a view that Steve Jobs was just a bit shitty. Jobs changed lives, but he also enslaved lives.

My people to look up to have never done that.