Quote Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER View Post
Tito no offense but u are talking nonsense! The division is thriving and is just as good as ever!)

We all know a motivated povetkin and a fully fit chagaev (both gold medallists, in fact ruslan beat felix savon twice!) would slot well into any era let alone the klitschkos! We all know slick southpaw world champ's ibragimov and byrd would too (go watch them against tua, golota, holy and briggs!) If fatass solis gets himself in proper shape he will pick up a belt post klitschko too no doubt...

You wanna talk bad eras?? Try larry holmes'....tim witherspoon (a fight most thought holmes lost,badly!) had fought 15 fights, Leon Spinks had a 10-2-2 record when he fought holmes, james Smith was 14-1, ossie Ocasio 13 fights, David Bey had 14-0-1, Marvis Frazier had 10 fights etc and lets be honest larry lost to bummy carl williams too....

Now A slick historian may tell you that he defeated 5 world champions and was a dynamite champion himself. Let’s look at that:

A.Ken Norton was not a World Champion. He was given a belt (WBC) and lost it in his first defense against Holmes.

B.Muhammad Ali was waaaayyyy past his prime and nobody really gives Holmes credit for that victory.

C.Leon Spinks? that fact that a man who had half a dozen profesional fights became the ring mag and WBA champ tells you everything! Larry's main protaganist was gerry cooney a man who suffered with alcohol and drug dependancy for years during his career ffs!

spinks was 6 -1, yes all of 6 -1 when he beat ali for the ring and WBA titles,he was 10-2-2 when he challenged holmes!!


Has Wlad fought Povetkin? No. Also, you mention Ibragimov and Byrd. I'll ignore Byrd for the purpose of this argument. Byrd is shit to me, although he's got his fans. A shit heavyweight, who honestly should've never ventured beyond light heavy. Ibragimov..... yes..... I seem to recall the "fight" between Wlad and the Sultan. In all likelihood the most BORING fight the division has ever seen. A pawing-fest by Wlad, and a timid Ibragimov. I fell asleep 28 times during the fight.

Oh.... and Solis. IF, the "fatass" gets himself in shape, like you say. Hardly a ringing endorsement on the state of the division, wouldn't you say?

I'm sorry, but I've watched enough Wlad fights to know that for some reason, no matter how "decent" (tongue-in-cheek) the opponent's resume.... they all seem to climb into the ring like the prisoner being taken to the gas chamber. And they fight like that, too.

Now... you compare Wlad's era with that of Larry Holmes. First, let me make this disclaimer perfectly clear. I am the world's biggest Holmes hater. Can't stand the guy... never could. But one thing is hating the guy, and another is hearing someone compare Holmes' career with Wlad's. How many memorable fights has Wlad been in? How many memorable fights was Holmes in? End of point. No comparison whatsoever. And no... I don't count his win over Muhammed Ali at all. That was a travesty of a boxing match. It probably caused Ali much of his unfortunate disease. The rest of his career and opponents are far superior to Wlad's.

I stick by my previous assessment.