It's so rife in the sport that I don't put any of these guys in the hall of shame or nullify their achievments because so many people have done/are still doing it and getting away with it. It happens in boxing..if it's such an issue with you don't watch the sport. Or you'll have to take away at least half of the greats achievements.

And Holyfield was caught..unless you believe that "Evan Fields" was somebody else who Victor Conte served up to

I'm totally with Lyle on this one. Those are real reasons to put somebody in the hall of shame.