Quote Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER View Post
Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
I'm not, but if he was the same size as any other elite fighter, do you think he'd stand out?
Yes.<br />
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What is this nonsense about size! If it were to do with size then why cant fellow eastern europeans timo hoffman and dimitrenko match what the klitschkos do! American e'g's? Lance whitaker? Corey sanders? Derrick jefferson? It is there ability not there size!!<br />
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And in regards to size obviously those who use this accusation never felt the urge to check the records of other famous boxers like Ali or Foreman. Because it's actually them who notoriously outweighed their opponents...<br />
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name of the fighter and in how many fights the boxer has been out-weighed (in no particular order): <br />
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-George Foreman 11% (9 of 81 fights) <br />
-Sonny Liston 18% (10 of 54) <br />
-Joe Louis 22% (16 of 70) <br />
-Vitali Klitschko 27% (12 of 43) <br />
-Lennox Lewis 27% (12 of 44) <br />
-Muhammad Ali 27% (17 of 61) <br />
-Riddick Bowe 31% (14 of 45) <br />
-Ron Lyle 37% (19 of 51) <br />
-Earnie Shavers 37% (34 of 90) <br />
-Joe Frazier 40% (15 of 37) <br />
-Ken Norton 40% (20 of 50) <br />
-Wladimir Klitschko 46% (27 of 50) <br />
-Larry Holmes 46% (35 of 75) <br />
-Mike Tyson 55% (32 of 50) <br />
-Evander Holyfield 81% (45 of 55) <br />
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You know the critics have no arguments left when they are using this old cliche.
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Useless stats - Those who outweigh Wlad do so due to lazyness for the most part. Heavies were generally in better shape back then. While I don't agree nor disagree with your point , you're using stats again that don't paint a full picture.

I rate Wlad, I think he would have held his own in most eras but I think we'd have seen a couple more losses on his record. I get the feeling somebody like Kenny Norton would have given him trouble or guys like Frazier who were great at slipping and sliding while getting inside.