Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
The creation of the state of Israel was a terrible blunder and has only ever caused trouble in the region. Countless wars, the continued degredation of the Palestinians. It was absurd to create Israel. On that basis you should really kick out the whities in America and create a new United States of Native Americans. Then you look at Israel today and they are using the same methods that manifest destiny Americans used. We will take land by force, we will degrade you, manipulate you. There will be no peace until we have all the land. Those that live within our borders shall be denied rights and work as serfs. It is exactly the same and the world created this and though it was a good idea? It is a blot on the planet.
That is a very simplistic and ill informed description of a propaganda based media construct that no doubt feels very comfortable to you and your view of the world. It allows for both a knowing sense of superiority, an opportunity for self hatred and comes with a winning side order of self righteous indignation. It paints a world in which you can ignore refugees (not including the 850 000 expelled from Arab nations between 1948-1951) pretend that despotic warring Arab leaders who practised torture and denied basic human rights, including the opportunity to vote from their own citizens, never happened. It does nothing to acknowledge the rights of atheist, Christian and Muslim citizens the chance to live in a safe country free from attack and furthers your own racist agenda in aligning a multi-racial country in which thousands of Black Ethiopian Jews are afforded the exact same status as white people with your previous assertions that Israel is like South African apartheid or the extermination of Native Americans.

The objection and disdain for non muslim people is a common place phenomena across the middle east and in countries conquered by Islam but the idea of tolerance and acceptance is enshrined into the very idea of Jewishness that has benefited your own culture here in England since Medieval times. This does not make the bombing of civilians by a political state acceptable but neither does it excuse your own easy portrayal of anybody who is not English,American,or Israeli as victims.