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Who pays for all the amateur testing that goes on all year long?
You make it a rule. Start at the championship level.
What kind of extra testing are we talking about?
Random for all title fights. The knock on the door at 2 a.m. on a Sunday kind of testing. If boxing really wants to address the issue then some people are going to have to be inconvenienced. These pre/post fight tests are not going to catch anyone unless they have an IQ of 30 and it takes 31 to bark.
The trouble is, athletes have been cheating random drug testing for decades.

What happens is they get an athlete to sign a declaration that states where they can be found during a certain period of time, like "during July, through the hours of 10am-4pm, I can be found at my home at 123 Fake Street in Brooklyn". Shit happens in life though, and an instance might occur where you won't be at the place you said you'd be. Maybe you have to make an unexpected trip to go see a sick relative. So they stipulated that you can miss a random drug test, you just have to go before the commission and present the reason why you weren't where you said you'd be, which is easy enough to do. Then they get you to sign another declaration for a time period several months later.

So an athlete can give an address where he knows he won't be, use PEDs, miss the test, go before a commision and say "sorry that day I had to go visit my uncle in Philly who was sick", sign a declaration for 2 months later, cycle off, and piss clean.

They can't just do it at any time. Then you have guys saying "hey WTF, they woke me up at 2am on a Sunday morning, disturbing my essential rest time, and they tested my opponent at 7pm without disturbing him."
The trouble is, athletes have been cheating random drug testing for decades.
And they will continue to beat random testing but random testing will catch more people then scheduled will if the idea is to take a step. There is also the stigma of being exposed years later like Marion and Lance when science catches up and they retest the blood bank taken by them at different times w/o notice.

What happens is they get an athlete to sign a declaration that states where they can be found during a certain period of time, like "during July, through the hours of 10am-4pm, I can be found at my home at 123 Fake Street in Brooklyn". Shit happens in life though, and an instance might occur where you won't be at the place you said you'd be. Maybe you have to make an unexpected trip to go see a sick relative. So they stipulated that you can miss a random drug test, you just have to go before the commission and present the reason why you weren't where you said you'd be, which is easy enough to do. Then they get you to sign another declaration for a time period several months later.
Its still better then the alternative though which is to let some roid rage freak kill someone because he extremed out and beat the pre and post fight tests. Oh I'm sure that every excuse in the book would be used as to why certain people could not be tested but what does that tell the public?
And I have never seen a random testing contract. Seems a bit of an oxymoron.

So an athlete can give an address where he knows he won't be, use PEDs, miss the test, go before a commision and say "sorry that day I had to go visit my uncle in Philly who was sick", sign a declaration for 2 months later, cycle off, and piss clean.
That is not random testing. And again the statusquo is better how?

They can't just do it at any time. Then you have guys saying "hey WTF, they woke me up at 2am on a Sunday morning, disturbing my essential rest time, and they tested my opponent at 7pm without disturbing him."
Yes they can. They even woke Floyd up.