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@TitoFan - one more thing that you should consider is that Wladimir has an insanely high KO ratio. So, it's not like he is carrying opponents to win on the cards because he doesn't ever engage. He engages, just at his own, measured, deliberate pace, which I agree, can be hard to tolerate. Come to think of it, the only person recently to last with Wladimir is David Haye, and that's because Haye ran the whole night and made it a Wlad fight even more boring than it typically is.
You sound like Larry Merchant. Who ignored Wlad using his elbows to push him down all night. It is simply not true that David Haye ran the whole night. People who believed Hayes overhyped predictions and brought those preconceptions into the fight keep saying this but if you watch the ACTUAL fight you will see Haye try and throw plenty of bombs and mostly fail to connect. At one point he leaps up and therefore carries no power in his punch and at many other points he tries to rush in and throw punches only to be smothered or pushed down. He did not knock out Wlad because it was much harder than he anticipated, but at no point was a man so much shorter and two stones lighter ever going to stand toe to toe with him. Wlad is much harder to hit than it appears and Haye now knows that. If he is still fighting when a similarly well conditioned man of his own huge stature with good boxing skills and big KO power meets him, he is in big trouble. Price is that man and Wlads days as champ are numbered.
There is no point to this argument because we've had it before. We can agree to disagree. In my opinion, clearly not shared by you, Haye talked more crap than anyone since Tyson told Lewis he would eat his children. Then on the biggest stage in his career, Haye turned in a crap performance. Maybe if Haye hadn't told everyone that would listen he would decapitate Wlad, we wouldn't have expected an engaging fight because of their size difference. We had a right to be disappointed after Haye's pre-fight antics. Afterward, he blamed his lack of fight on his big toe. Really, that is all that needs to be said about that.