Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
Ward Dawson did 8K in attendance and was a decently exciting live fight. Ward is still young and an Olympic gold medalist, for anyone to suggest he is a lame duck is full of it. Even if he was, Hopkins still isn't a draw to this day! Why should we as boxing fans care? Oracle isn't even conducive to watching boxing (the UFC did a similar gate for a ppv event.. ) People in America know who Ward is and his visibility is higher because of his HBO gig. NOBODY here talks about Froch, Mayweather, Paccquaio and the Mexicans are the only ones who move the needle in America. Broner after that and thats just bbecause I'm lucky enough to live in a boxing conscience area in the Bay Area. Both Ward and Froch are good for boxing as is Kessler. Ward is the number 2 p4p guy in the sport and no one wants to see this fight in England because of the crowd, they just want to see a more competitive Ward Froch fight than wha took place at a nearly nneutral venue. I don't care but I think anyone saying this bout Has to happen in England is ridiculous. Why not make Martinez Chavez 2 in Mexico? Why not? Good for Froch but if some stubborn refusal to come to the USA after Froch clearly lost a bout here holds up this fight then that isn't on Ward.

With that said, if the bout isn't in Oakland and I can't go, I would like to see it happen in England.
Why is saying that a bout where the holder of two belts in a division, versus a guy with no belts, and less fans willing to turn up, or buy a PPV ticket, has to happen in the Champions home country, ridiculous ? That is without factoring in the fact that the champion has already went to the country of the other guy in his first match.

Don't you get it ? Do you think Froch or Eddie Hearn care if nobody in America has heard of Froch ? Plenty of people in America are isolated and introspective to the point of deaf and blindness when it comes to any non American in any field. Froch doesn't need America, Boxing doesn't need America, The rest of the world doesn't need America.

Exactly how is Atlantic city a nearly neutral venue? It's home soil. Ward is American. Froch is English. London is not Nottingham did Froch try and argue that therefore the O2 was a nearly neutral venue?

Your flimsy stubborn refusal argument just doesn't wash, you are already making excuses for Ward before he has been offered the fight. And then you wonder why people think you come across as arrogant.