THAT, was NOT "Boxing"- Klitchsko vs. Povetkin.

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Sure was an ugly fight. You guys think the result would have been any different without the holding? I do not as Povetkin just doesn't have the tools to beat Wlad. He def would have been more competitive though.

No. But the point is we want to see fair fights and it is bullshit if one fighter gets away with that much fouling. Wlad is a great fighter, but that shit isn't needed. Povetkin was already up against it as Wlad is a completely different class, no need to hold that much.

this gives wlad far too much credit

people say its not the holding that makes him good when in fact it is the holding that makes him good, his whole strategy is based on holding and its not in the rules

if made to fight within the rules we would have a different champion right now

Not a chance. Povetkin isn't some monster puncher. Wlad was hurting him with every shot. The holding & leaning is bullshit but don't pretend like Wladimir isn't the best Heavyweight in the world. He is leagues above guys like Povetkin. He doesn't just win every fight because of holding. His footwork, stiff jab and powerful right cross have alot to do with it. I hate watching him fight, but I respect his skill set. Blame the referee for not stopping the fouls.

right we are discussing who would have won if the fight was under the rules of boxing arent we?

you might be right, i might be right but that fact is we will never know because it wasnt and it wasnt even close to being a fair fight, not even close

do you honestly think wlad would have dominated like he has if he was made to fight every fight?

and my opinion is we dont know if wlad is the best HW in the world or not