do you not realize that ali threw way more punches than HWs today? back then, they had way better stamina. they actually trained. maybe half of these HWs today would be crusiers if they actually put in effort to get into shape. like i said before, to you, it doesnt matter about weight. it only matters on what you perceive. you have stated many times that haye would beat guys like ali and louis because they would be the same size and with the developments in training he is obviously better.

you are acting like frazier hit like chris byrd. i guarantee that some of these cruisers today would still hurt wlad if they hit him with flush shots. its just ridiculous that you think that ali didnt have a good chin when all signs pointed that he did.

the question is that at what point would you not believe your opinion anymore? could anybody say or do anything to make you disbelieve your point? for example, if past and present boxers who had faced either wlad or ali said that ali would win, would you still believe your opinion or would you then realize you were wrong? im asking because i want to see how pointless it is arguing with you.