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But come watch a mma guy in and out the octagon boxers, kickboxers, wrestlers and jujitsu all maintain their discipline throughout any fight.
No they dont. They mix the whole lot up into a style that suits themselves.
The very thing Lee began.
Fuck Kung fu it was a simple stepping stone for him and others.

Think about Karate in the same light you try blocking in those rounded movements like traditional karate does and throwing from the hip with over rotating punches and see how far that gets you these days.

Thai kick boxing back in the day was the closest to what the whole fight game has become the rest all have their uses.
Jeet kune do still has its too. That is where Lee finished and others took over.

Now the whole game is a mixture of useful techniques from many arts including western boxing. Arts that wouldn't stand alone in the Octagon unless a beast of a person came out of one. Kung fu has many forms and is the worse I agree, but all traditional art forms just arent good enough on their own these days, they have to learn the best out of each to survive.
First of what do you mean they don't maintain their discipline throughout any fight? They would of course mix it up only if they know both boxing and kickboxing and or with the other two. My point is a boxer will more than likely win any stand up against anybody who stands with them unless its a kickboxer who know better to trade with a boxer and not use his kicks. Bruce Lee wouldn't win a fist fight against Tyson nor would he win any striking match against Buakaw. In the real world he is an amateur and a heavy underdog against real fighters. Just like all traditional martial artist because they will find out the nonsense they've been doing wont work against what is proven effective boxing, kickboxing, ju-jitsu, wrestling.

What game? MMA?

Ofcourse there are fighters with other discipline other then the four most successful one I listed but like I said they are the four most successful because they are the four who throughout the ages actually physically competed and found truth into all myths.
What I was trying to say; was none of those 'successful arts' you mentioned here are pure to their own art form any more. They have all adapted and taken on the best from all of the others. They have had to in order to survive in there, thats how far and how fast the fight game has progressed.

By the game; I meant the modern fight game as opposed to the traditional ones before it.