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Half the checkout counter? I have only ever met one foreign checkout worker and she was Spanish. 1. The entire population of Romania and Bulgaria? All the trains and planes are already booked up and full said Farage, Lies."Oh but this is only the start " you say. What a doom monger you are. Ryanman has clearly studied the issue in depth and you have dismissed his expertise in favour of uncollaborated anecdotes. It is not snide to point out your aversion to facts it is honesty.Using immigrants as a scapegoat has long been the way of the privileged few to keep the heat of themselves, just as despite benefit fraud only accounting for 0.7% of expenditure the unemployed are attacked by the Tories along with the disabled as though they are the reason the working poor are so skint. Smoke and mirrors. Huge corporations avoiding tax, corrupt MPs and quangoes, inept and greedy banks bailed out by tax payers and you are worried about hard working immigrants or people living in cardboard boxes? Shame on you.
Go to London or any major city and check yourself into a hotel. You will be lucky to find anyone who is English. From the check in, to the cleaner, to the bar tender, you will be lucky to find a genuine English person.

You seem to have a very obsessive either/or attitude on this entire issue and quite frankly it smells decidedly iffy. Since when have I just dimissed anything Ryan has said? I have acknowledged elements of what he has said and then added further perspective. Unchecked immigration is NOT a good thing and more need to get away from the broadsheet agenda and it is quite obviously an agenda as nothing negative can be spoken about immigration. They clearly have an either/or attittude to it and on the flip side so do the tabloids, but arguing quite the opposite. What I have actually been saying is that you need CONTROLLED immigration. This isn't a stew where you can throw in millions of people. If it doesn't have balance then it will taste horrible. Immigration and society is the same. If it isn't done appropriately, then many will end up with a sour taste in the mouth, as indeed, appears to have become the case.

You also seem to be making a bizarre case that I ignore the massive levels of corruption in the British political system and would instead rather castigate immigrants. Bit of a strawman argument there and what an offensive crock of shit too. How many posts have I made over the years condemning British (and of course American) politics? I don't think I even need to respond to such a stupid argument. 'You blame the immigrants and the poor, but excuse the bankers'. You are having a laugh, right?

Also, don't forget that it is freezing cold in the UK and many of the migrants will be waiting until the somewhat eccentric tabloids have cooled down a little. How about discussing numbers a year down the line, and of course the government will not have a clue what the real numbers are, as they are the ones who are too busy attacking the poor of the UK. The poor of the UK who are also the victims of a whatever government is in place and both of whom started the agenda of uncontrolled immigration.