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The thing is any asshole with a good punch and a gritty attitude can be in the UFC... with boxing, it's a little more contained. You actually need skill to win against someone equally as skilled.

There is also something more classier to boxing over mma... from training, to pre-fight hype to fight night.

It was only recently the riff-raff started to invade the boxing stands- this was not how this was. This was a gentleman's sport, and a black tie affair in the early days.

Boxing is truly a sport, while mma is just an event you go to see.
That 1st line is such ignorant bullshit. A good punch is pretty much the last thing you need in MMA.
You obviously read the words and didn't contain the meaning- I said a good punch AND a "gritty attitude"... which suggests you need to be able to grapple, knowing how to do so in an effective manner moreso than a skillful manner.

Even with "ground and pound", you need a good punch. On the top or the bottom. Nothing in the fight game can make up for not having a good wollop- or else we will have what we have been having, boring ass fights with guys rolling around the floor until someone gets tired and gets his leg snapped or his neck twisted- which is more rare in UFC than are ko's, by a wide ass margin.

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You're trying to make it out as if there is no skill involved and that the stronger man wins. That logic can be applied to boxing too. Scott is the more skillfull boxer then Wilder but Wilder beat him in 1 because he has a bigger punch and Scott has no heart. Here the better puncher and "grittier" fighter one.

I find it the opposite for UFC. Look at Anderson Silva or GSP. Neither you would consider the strongest in their divs but spiders slick skills and GSPs outstanding wrestling has elevated them above everyone else.
To some extent, but at the end of the day- to me that is- what do you need to know about rolling around on the ground and hitting someone in the face?

I think Silva is a skilled fighter- but fighters like him, are fighters like Floyd and Ali. We have more skilled level fighters in boxing than we have in UFC/mma.

MMA has been branded a brawlers style of fighting in my mind... boxing just has more mystique and class about it, barring the odd pre-fight brawls and dodgy promoters.