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I agree Pac would do better. He'd employ the lateral movement Floyd did not use that Marcos struggles with.
I saw Mayweather use plenty of lateral movement. He'd move side to side and waste time out of range, think he could hurt Maidana with a check left hook then find himself on the ropes. Everyone struggles with lateral movement, both the bull and the matador, simply because its a farce in a squared circle. What Pacquiao would do is throw the lead left whilst slipping the jab then turn Maidana and circle away to Maidana's blindside. Lateral movement in a squared circle = getting caught on the ropes.
Even turning someone you escape laterally before re-engaging. Floyd backed straight back most of the night. You move laterally to avoid getting caught on the ropes. I don't even begin to understand what you are getting at with "lateral movement in a ssquared circle=getting caught on the ropes" are you saying moving laterally makes you get caught on the ropes? Because if so you are terrible wrong. Or are you saying Floyd was caught on the ropes repeatedly? In that case you are right. If you want to see how lateral movement can keep you off the ropes and not allow a big puncher get off because their feet aren't ready watch Mayweather/Corrales.
If you move laterally/side to side in a square all your going to do is eventually hit the sides. It's just common sense. Circling is how you avoid hitting the sides (ropes), keep the fight in the centre of the squared circle, conserve energy and, most importantly, ensure that you are always in a position to throw effective punches whilst literally being one step ahead of your opponent. Floyd was at his worst when he used lateral movement against Maidana. He was needlessly wasting time and energy against a swarmer which could have been put to better use early on attacking the body and turning him into punches, he was only negatively reinforcing the impression that Maidana was forcing him to run and, worst of all, he was not in a position to throw effective combinations to keep him at bay. That was the real reason he kept finding himself against the ropes. Believing that simply moving side to side in a box will greatly alter the course of a fight is not only a terrible mistake but an absurd insinuation.
Now I know not to speak to you in boxing terms. Every person here who has boxed knew exactly what I meant because it's common boxing vernacular . But you describe the word from a mathematical POV. I suspect you are just being difficult. Or when someone mentions. A clinche do you picture the fighter tightening his butthole? Now I'm being difficult. In the future when we are discussing something and I use boxing terminology it will be intended to be the boxing definition on this boxing message board not not literal definition, cool? If we talk on a mathematical board we can use mathematical definitions.
Lol there was nothing mathematical about what I posted - you're just a fucking dumbcunt! Anyone who has boxed before knows that side to side movement is just another name for running. You force yourself into an ultra squared - up position from where you cannot throw punches with any proper leverage let alone combinations, you sacrifice all of your range and are reduced to fending and running - that's half the reason why people hate Floyd so much! When Floyd starting to keep the fight in the centre of the ring by turning and circling (thereby also placing himself into a position to "sit down on his punches and dig to the body") lo and behold the fight turned into his favor. I don't know why this is so hard for you to understand. Maybe next time you post on the boxing board you should try disengaging your asshole from Floyd's penis if only for a moment so that you could start posting opinions of value instead of endlessly praising the Lord of coonery Himself