Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post

His style is a bit different to Floyd but it has the same effect in fights. I will always rate Willie better then PBF.

Enjoy
Skill-wise, Pep isn't even in Mayweather's league. Nor is he in Pernell's league. It pains me that when people think of defensive boxing, Pep gets brought up before these guys.

Pep was a runner who couldn't fight effectively on the inside (like those two could) and when he ran up against big Sandy Saddler he had no ability to cope, to switch gears and deal with Saddler's power. He got beat up what, 3 or 4 times?
pep is better defensively than floyd for sure and is probably a bit better than pernell but that can be debated. floyd has greate defense but definitely isnt in the top 5 defensive fighters of all time like pep and pernell.

you need to understand that pep fought saddler after his plane crash. he wasnt considered as good as he once was. also, as was previously mentioned, it was just a bad style match up. saddler was very tall and lengthy which could nullify peps outside fighting because saddler could hit him from the outside. pep was great at fighting at the perfect distance to be just out of range. saddler was just a bit too long. and realize that saddler is also an all time great so its not as if pep lost to a nobody. saddler won 3 out of 4 fights. in peps prime, im sure he wins at least one more and maybe two more.