Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
Of course, what do you want to know? One of the TRUE defensive wizards in boxing history (not overrated ones like Willie Pep), right up there with Pernell, Toney, Floyd, ect. One of the greatest 140lbers of all time, a personal favourite of mine.

From what I read he was a true natural talent. Didn't like to train, was a heavy smoker all through his career, just a guy who was absolutely born to box.
you shut your mouth about pep. he is an absolute elite defensive fighter of all time along with a top fighter all around of all time.