Floyd camp's PED propaganda!

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Good post, but I'm gonna have to disagree with this particular point. Just because PED use is wide spread and as you said... ahead of the curve... does not prove that everybody's juicing. I'm not prepared at this point to provide a list of fighters that would not "test hot with relevant testing", but I still disagree with such a broad, all-encompassing statement. I will agree that the vast majority is doing it, however. In a way it's no different than the popular team sports. It used to be that people would ooh and ahh with every news story of a baseball player caught using PED's. Now it's more like "yawnnnn.... another one".

Obviously the answer is to spend more money on testing procedures, trying to close the gap between testing and doping.

Glad you raised that and I also hang onto that belief but at a certain level I think you almost have to in one way or another unless you are a Floyd or Ward, Calzaghe or Jofre. The alternative in many cases is that you will be beaten by someone who is. I think I clarified my position in later posts on the degree of there use. My point is chances are in many cases the guy that is busted was just stupid and his opponent wasn't so he passed the pee test.

PEDS are a broad, broad spectrum. Its much more then cycling systems with roids. The blanket statement I made was really in a devils advocate role. I do believe that the system as it stands today is the biggest enabler of the very thing it claims to be against.There is no adequate testing because they don't want it.They cant even organize a pension plan after 150 years.

I don't know that "they don't want it", as much as it may be that they just find it's too much trouble and too costly to pursue this adequate testing ideal.

I don't think anyone really benefits from people getting busted using steroids, other than athletes competing who aren't using steroids.

The leagues/promoters/ect benefit because they get better performances by superior athletes. Look at what steroids did to the game of baseball: it was never more exciting than in the 90s when Sosa and McGwire, two roided up meatheads, were chasing the home run record. They allow athletes to compete at a higher level and for longer into their career, which means substantially more money.

Fans get to watch and enjoy the higher level of athletic competition, and they get to see their favourite athletes have much longer careers thanks to chemical enhancement.

The athletes who use benefit because it allows them to compete at that higher level and longer, making much more money for longer periods of time.

And at the end of the day, all this extra money brought in from steroid use benefits the commissions, because they are taking a % of the gross.

What people really want is the illusion that all their heroes aren't cheating and the playing field is truly level. So for decades the commissions said "hey, everyone's clean, we got them to piss into a cup on a set date and the sample was clean, they're drug tested so everyone go about their business and keep the money coming in." Now finally that illusion has disappeared with all these steroid labs being busted and all this talk about undetectable designer drugs, and guys like Lance Armstrong coming out and admitting he cheated for 20 years without being caught... so now they are scrambling to build up that illusion again.