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He will bid his time and pile up those defences, that will enhance his greatness. And fight by fight he will come closer to those defining moments where he will be judged. Not getting those superfights immediatly will only benefit for him.
That entire post is wrong. And this mentality is awful. Sport is about competition.
And another poster mentioned "ruling like Hagler, Monzon, and Hopkins" it's not the same, they fought the best. I like GGG but I absolutely hate what is happening.
People are turning a blind eye to the fact his handlers aren't even really trying to make big fights. They are using his busy schedule as a cover. We want to fight in May, why? If there is no meaningful fight in May, why? By the time he has his fight people will be locked up again. Why not stay available and push for a meaningful fight? It's a matter of what is better 3 5 million dollar fights or 5 3 million dollar fights. It's the same to his promoter. It's great for meaningless records like title defenses(great, you beat 20 inferior opponents so do most people on the way up) but what is lost is the 3 *GOOD* fights. Boxing fans seem to think these days that KOs mean excitement, that's f'n sad. Excitement should come from top quality competition. 4 years this man has been champ "cleaning out" this division. It is not clean, he has more trinkets, he gets paid more, but where are the significant fights? Down the road, I remember everyone saying that 2 years ago, and last year, now we're 2 fights into this year. Pay attention to what's happening people.
What are the
big fightsthat his handlers aren't making? I don't see any fights that he's avoiding at 160. I actually think that he has faced or is facing the best at 160.
If you want him to move up in weight, do you apply the same logic to Andre Ward? He cleaned out the super middleweight division when he beat the Carl Froch
in 2011. That's literally more than 4 year ago!
As to Hopkins, he's considered by most to be a great middleweight, what were his big wins at 160? Tito and Oscar coming up in weight? What's the difference with that and wanting to face Cotto coming up in weight? In fact, I would argue that the wins over Tito and Oscar are what brought Hopkins into the realm of top dogs in boxing. Hopkins' reign at middleweight consisted of the likes of Mercado and Carl Daniels, capable foes, but no better that Murray and Geale.
1) I have never said he is avoiding big fights. I am saying they aren't attempting to make big fights. There is a difference. They say we're fighting at X date at X venue and then look for who can fill the spot. They should look for the opponent and then get the appropriate date and venue. Because it is the opponent that matters. They are doing it backwards. We've already seen the venue cost him a better fight and the date cost him a couple better fights. Start with the OPPONENT!!!
2)Andre Ward should move up in weight. Right after he fights GGG. Why is every GGG fan so eager for Andre to get away?(you don't have to answer that I know the answer)
But even at that you have it backwards again. Andre has had the big fights so he is allowed more leniency. Many seem to think there should be more leniency to those that haven't had big fights. That's wrong because THE SPORT IS ABOUT FIGHTS. After GGG has had his big fights he can do whatever he wants.
3)Oscar and Tito were significantly larger than Pac and Mayweather, or even Cotto. But I don't rate Hopkins as some great middleweight run either. I consider him a great MW fighter who lacked great MW fights. The same as I view GGG. Hopkins legend is from after MW really. When he was a diminished fighter but took on so many top guys. We don't know that GGG will last until 40+ he needs to do what he needs to do to get a big fighting he wants to be relevant 20 years from now. Don't pick a date and a venue and then look for whoever fits. Figure out who you want to fight and make it happen.
Why are some against this guy having a good fight? Please someone explain this
He's good enough, let the man eat!!!
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Re: GGG takes on Monroe Jr
Sturm avoided him, Martinez and now Cotto both never returned the call
that includes Cotto, the winner of Quillin/ Lee, the winner of Lemieux/ N'Jikam
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