Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
I can't believe that after Saturday's fiasco, with some bookies, England Are:
1. still 2nd favourites to win the World Cup.
2. Equal favourites to win the group
3. Favourites to beat Australia
And Australia are backed to not get out of the group!!
Not how I see it, I have to say.
England played as poorly as they could, and yet still all but beat a Wales team playing as well as they could. Australia are not the force they once were; they really have struggled in recent times against Northern Hemisphere teams they play away, so both England and Wales have to fancy their chances.

Also the draw is such that the winners of the group are hot favourites to get to the final.