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I'm not 100% sure how the primary system works, but it looks like Trump's campaign just gets stronger and stronger. As a history buff, a lot of his rhetoric seems to close to the rise of fascism to me, and the way that broad statements were too attractive when compared with those politicians who chose to stick with what they actually could achieve.

Clinton seems to be nailed on and although I like Bernie Sanders, he's way left of where most of the Democrats ever elected have been.
Bernie or at least Bernieism is the future of the Democratic party. Bernie has absolutely overwhelming 80-90% support from under 30 voters. For all the talk about Trump resetting the coalitions between the two big parties eventually a Bernieist will be the Democratic nominee and get elected. The Demographics in America are moving to the Democratic side about 3% every four years. In a 50 50 country that gives a basically huge game over lead to the Democrats from round about now.

Assuming Trump doesn't reset the coalitions of voters and steal a big chunk of Democrats Hillary will win but long term America will look like Bernieland.
The prevalence of a popularity in left wing politics among younger people has almost always been the case though. As people get older they will tend to become a little more conservative. The idea of a socialist country that may appear attractive in your teens and twenties become something a little more balanced as most people move into middle age.
There's been a gigantic sea change in people born after 1980. During the 50s-1980 people used to split 50-50 roughly when they got old enough to vote, the number remained a few points either side of fifty for decades. Now 1980s and afterwards are overwhelmingly lefties. The GOP is increasingly the party of older white folks.

After the 2012 the GOP produced a report (google gop autopsy) on the failed 2012 campaign and they came to the conclusion that they had to pass comprehensive immigration reform if they were ever to become competitive in national elections again. They started off well with Rubio pushing an immigration bill but then the base rebelled so much that Rubio ended up voting against his own bill so he didn't get primaried. Then Donald Trump and his wall came along.

From about 2020 or 2024 the Democrats will be unbeatable in national elections if the voting bases stay the same. Trump might just shake things up though.
Crock of shit.

Which part?