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are you happy with his holding tactics during that time?
I hated Wlad holding but he was still the best fighter. Wlad did not have to hold but he was so scared about his vulnerable chin that he did it excessively.
I don't think you can say that for sure

would he have beaten Peter in their second fight if he was stopped from holding?

he shouldn't have won the fight, he should have been DQ'd without a doubt

would he have beaten Provetkin?

would he have beaten haye?

haye was one of his best performances but he still held excessively

as soon as he was stopped from holding against any half decent opponent he looked terrible

I don't think we will ever know if wlad was the best boxer during that period, he was just the best at wlad rules
I hear what you're saying on most of that, and like you, I thought the Povetkin fight was a disgraceful fight from start to finish.
But the Haye fight is a little different. Haye was so cautious that Wlad didn't have to hold that much. Haye was looking for a way in all night but didn't want to commit. He played right into Wlad's hands and then blamed his big toe.
Haye's performance against Wlad was similar to Wlad's performance against Fury. Smaller man , less reach, worried about getting tagged by the bigger guy to the extent that they went gun shy.
And I'm not a Haye basher, I quite like the guy. he fucked up big time that night and made himself look a cunt.