Quote Originally Posted by ross
Youve used the best example of how poor todays heavys are, Toney !!!

Yes Toney makes todays heavys look silly, the reason he makes them look silly is because hes an old ex middle.

His opponents in lower weights werent so poor against him because they could fight, they werent just reliant on their power.

Toney would have struggled with Mikes opponents back then, they werent plodders
This is an excellent point

The fact that Toney can live amongst the current heavyweights at age 38, with over 80 fights and being obese shows just how shit the division is right now.

An even bigger shock is that when Hopkins a former 160 lber announced his intention to move up at AGE 41!!! to fight a 235 lb heavyweight champ in Maskaev the vast majority on this board think Hopkins would win easily.

That there tells you just how shit the heavies are today!

If the trend continues expect to see Floyd Mayweather and even Manny Pacquio trying their luck in 4 or 5 years time :P