Scientific Fraud

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Oh so you quoted that post from me just because?? How nice of you.

No, because, as usual, your kneejerk reaction is to badmouth science and scientists when you are clearly ignorant about what science even is, much less how it is conducted.

I love that you show back up here, you don't deny the craziness of what the Climate Change Alarmists are doing: Should We Be Having Kids In The Age Of Climate Change? : NPR, Al Gore at SXSW: We Need to 'Punish Climate-Change Deniers' and 'Put a Price on Carbon' - EcoWatch, Landmark California bill would allow prosecution of climate-change skeptics - Washington Times, AG Lynch: DOJ Has Discussed Whether to Pursue Civil Action Against Climate Change Deniers, Bill Nye open to criminal charges, jail time for climate-change dissenters - Washington Times, and there's another article suggesting we tax meat until it's too expensive to eat.

I love how you capitalize Climate Change Alarmists - and then have the gumption to say that *I'm* the one blindly listening to the media. Has it never occurred to you that there *might* be a reasonable cause for alarm? Or do you discredit that notion because the politicians who you seem to agree with do so as well? I am telling you as a scientist - the science is there. The scientists who devote their lives to this topic are telling you - the science is there. The findings are quite clear and published in many, many reputable journals. Yet you dispute these because you don't like Al Gore? Hell, I don't like him either. Yes, he profited from bringing the science on this issue to the public's attention. But THAT does not discredit the science, simply because he's a scumbag. Even an asshole like that can be right.

I don't believe imprisonment is the correct route for climate change deniers (specifically the ones in the scientific community). I think the loss of professional credibility is punishment enough for those who push forward results that are pretty obviously bought and paid for by the fossil fuel industry. If the results are correct, they stand on their own - but there is a reason why some of the results by certain climate change scientists are ridiculed by their peers, and (I hate to dispute your narrative) it ain't because of the vast left-wing conspiracy here, bud. It's because the science the shills put forth is bogus. Their peers call them out on it.

Verifiable, correct results stand on their own. THAT is science. I don't care who funds it - if it is verifiable by independent sources, then it is almost always correct.

Those things MEH, you don't have an issue with, but me saying this is all a fucking hoax oooooh that gets your ire up and you just have to take a break from grading papers to lecture me. Because as wrong as those people may be, they're on the right side of history in your eyes. So bully for them!

I'm not lecturing you. I'm honestly trying to let others know that you are full of shit on this topic, since you have nothing of any substance whatsoever to contribute to the discussion. Just because you *believe* that the scientists are wrong (or corrupt, or what the fuck ever it is that you blather on about) doesn't mean that you are right. The scientists have logic and science on their side. If their results start to back up your position, then I'll agree with them - I don't have the scientific means to dispute them.

All you have to support your position is a lot of propaganda and a lot of hot air. I still have yet to see anything even vaguely resembling a valid scientific argument coming out of you. So yeah - I'll listen to the smart people on this one.

"Scientists who make $50-75K a year, get grant money and get to spend almost none on themselves vs. global conglomerate corporations with billions to spend on skewing public perception on this issue."
The government takes in taxes and they'll take in more takes than companies will bring in revenue because....they tax every company in the nation along with every citizen in the nation. The government can waste billions of dollars, most businesses can't afford that.

The US government does make more in tax revenue than most "companies", but not all. The government also does *not* tax every company in the nation - or they tax them, but allow enough loopholes so that some corporations end up with an effective tax rate of zero. The government can and does waste billions of dollars, sure - but the multi-billion dollar fossil-fuel corporations can absolutely "waste" (read: invest) billions in order to protect future revenue. Come on man - are you *really* that fucking stupid? Where is the money here? It sure as hell isn't in the pockets of the scientific community.