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Lyle no disrespect but you are an incredibly rude patronising lad. You are insisting that anyone not subscribing to your own particular world view are ignorant and naive. You are ascribing opinions and statements that neither myself, master or any other rational person have or would ever make. You seem to have a very low opinion of anyone who does not share your viewpoint. Its speaks volumes about the narrowness of your actual experience and the desperateness of the flimsy argument you are failing to build.
Do you know of Taqiyya? Do you know of the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah?...I can guarantee you that ISIS and Al Qaeda do
So your response is to continue to patronise? Taqiya is a pragmatic solution for those being persecuted. So much like Galileo when operating in the time of the Spanish Inquisition in order not to tortured and murdered by the extremists of his day, a pragmatic solution can keep you alive. I know that there is a huge tradition of martydom in Christianity where such people are elevated as heroic for enduring death because they refuse to recant or deny their beliefs but that is not the only way. Just as not all Christians are honorable or even Christian in the way they act of course many Muslims will use any excuse to act in the most unislamic of ways.

You are continuing to invent positions I have never held and lie in order to somehow bolster your own argument. Where have I said that all cultures are equal? Do you think that somebody like myself who has virtually eulogised Christopher Hitchens in past posts would take such a view? There is even a thread somewhere that I started suggesting that Multicultralism does not work and that no culture or particular group is equal. Maybe it is your clumsy American inability to detect nuance or tolerate discussion and debate on anything but broad simple issues that is forcing you to make everything black and white? who knows, in that case your own culture would seem to be trailing behind a lot of the rest of the world, particularly Europe which yourself and Brockton are incredibly eager to patronise and dismiss as being sheep like and naive.

I have huge problems with Islam and the fundamentals of many religions but That does not lead me to labeling all Syrians as potential terrorists or becoming so bitter and cynical that 'refugee', 'migrant' 'Opportunist' 'terrorist' become interchangable. Lazy excuse for debate mate. It personifies your recent style in which you take an extreme view and dismiss everything that does not agree with it. That is one thing even Titofan can see despite probably being virtually diametrically opposed to me on most issues.