Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
I agree that grasping at straws is evidence of a failing argument. The whole premise of Lyle's argument though is a classic straw man argument. It precedes on the notion that extreme proponents of violence in Islam are evidence of an entire culture being inferior to another. It matters not to him that nobody is arguing that these extremists do not exist, he just wants to infer that is what people are saying in order to shout louder which to him is the same as winning an argument. In fact in the terrorists thread he took me saying that the police could find no evidence to suggest the person involved had anything to do with Isis or Daesh as evidence of me making excuses for a terrorist. So go figure that one. Everything to him is about winning and yet he cannot construct an argument with any real skill or aptitude and that is why he has to repost other people's opinion for several years in a thread that nobody but himself is reading. (not this one).

So for Lyle it matters not that extremists hijack Christianity to do unspeakable deeds because he is not really interested in debating facts only espousing his own facts which are superior to everyone else's. Self -described is irrelevant, extremist Muslim preachers are self- described Muslims and also first class morons. The idea that Gd told anybody anything is about as reliable as "your cheque is in the mail" but that is the basis of most religions.

It is also quite noteworthy that despite not agreeing with Lyle's assertion that not only have you not voted but you would rather pick holes in my post. I understand that it is difficult to see from inside but Christianity has been used and continues too be used daily to justify acts of murderous barbarity.
Extremists hijack Christianity to do unspeakable deeds eh......deeds you've listed? Like:
400 years of Trans Atlantic Slave Trade that maimed, raped, killed, kidnapped, and enslaved 20 million Africans "heathens" to bring them to Christ
—Genocide of Native Americans under the name of Christ as Manifest Destiny
—Genocide of Australian Aborigines that killed 90% of their population in less than a century, again by Christian Europeans
—Salem Witch Trials
—Spanish Inquisition
—Crusades


...I do believe I countered your list with

-The Arab Slave trade and IF we're to say the Civil War was 100% about just slavery (that is not my personal belief but the popular one)THEN some 620,000 WHITE MEN died to free the slaves
-Show me a civilization that hasn't done that
-That's Australia and not america, I live in America I shan't answer for their shortcomings
-20 whole people died, 20
-SPANISH
-The Crusades were a reaction to the expanse of the Umayyad Caliphate #themuzziesdidndunuthin



Beanz, you have brought NOTHING to the debate, absolutely nothing. You and your what aboutery is nothing, you bring up old bullshit, I'm bringing you what is happening in the present day in MY culture vs cultures outside of where I am which do things that I may or may not agree with.

I'm giving the benefit of the doubt to a lot of cultures, there's something to dislike/not agree with in every culture....but when I find I dislike/disagree with a lot of what a culture is bringing about, then yeah I'm going to use the part of my culture (1st Amendment Free Speech) to call it out and say it's bullshit.....polygamy is bullshit, polygamy with MINORS is even worse, tossing gays off of rooftops is BULLSHIT, I guess you still need me to go on with this because you apparently ARE just that fucking dense, but hey I'll defend my stance all day long and twice on Sunday. ....oh part of the law (not the culture) where I'm from is that the liquor stores are closed on Sundays, I dislike that and don't agree with that....happy?