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Thats your opinion. I don't think thats so
Name some other reasons why you would PRICE YOURSELF OUT?
Make more money
What money Gus? OUT?!?! Don't you understand the OUT part? He made NOTHING, 0, SHIT!!!

Come on Gus, Just one little reason, thats all, one reason why someone would price themselves OUT of a fight?

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Something Joe has never done but I'll get to my point in a minute
Hang on. What do you mean something Joe has never done? Duck anyone? I make you right.
No.. have two megafights against two lights of your generation is something Joe has never done.
I wonder why Gus, it wouldn't have something to do with being DUCKED!!! would it?

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Ok here's my point. Warren COULD have said yes to Hopkins and then we'd have a fight. And there would be a fight. So even if Hopkins made it pricy he would have fought Calzaghe if 'yes' was said. Is that correct?
err righto Gus. You clearly haven't got a clue how the boxing buisness works. Hey Ive got some cheap sea front property in Birmingham for sale if you're interested?
You didn't answer my question
Sorry Gus but what you suggest is pretty embarrassing...I think you're showing a bit of naivety, cause you probably don't understand how purses work etc, but to make it easy for you, if they agreed to his demands for double the price and gave him $6m what is there to stop Hopkins doubling again to $12m, or how about doubling again to $24m, you get where this is heading Gus? How about Calzaghe, should he let Hopkins have ALL the money and he fight for NOTHING? Using your logic, I guess he should of, a Gus, at least we would of had a fight.

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And you make comparisons on how much money Hopkins made with the turned down offer, how many did Joe make? And who did he fight after that?
He fought people that didn't duck him.
he fought nobodies until Lacy who wasn't ready for Joe to begin with. I've looked at his record and don't recognize any name in their prime. I recognized the name Chris Eubank but that seemed way outside of his prime.
This has nothing to do with BHOP ducking him....But you not recognising the names is down to your lack of boxing knowledge Gus. There's guys that have held WBC, WBA, WBO and IBF titles on his record.

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My point is that after that, Hopkins made better choices and made more money then Calzaghe, who if he is so enameured in his own porential legacy he would have tried to make those same decisions as well.
Exactly! If he didn't duck Calzaghe he wouldn't of made that lovely easy Oscar money. Why do you think Calzaghe has been chasing Hopkins?
Calzaghe was chasing Sven Ottke to my knowledge more so then he was chasing Hopkins. And you didn't answer my question that "if he is so enameured in his own porential legacy he would have tried to make those same decisions as well" All you said was thats why he was chasing Hopkins, my question to you is why didn't he chase anyone else? or unify the titles at 168 and make a name for himself? Why did he just stick to his WBO title and never once try to unify?
Why do you think he was/still chasing Hopkins? Why do think Ottke didn't want to fight? I'll leave it to Joe - “Come on Ottke you are claiming to be the best in the division, stop running like a chicken and face a real challenge for once. You luckily beat Robin Reid, who I defeated nearly five years ago and Byron Mitchell, who I stopped inside two rounds, which took you twelve rounds. Put your belts on the line against mine and lets see who’s the best and I will gladly go to Germany and beat you.”

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OK Just answer me this - What possible reason could there be for Hopkins to turn down a $3 million dollar career highest pay day - to fight a nobody like Calzaghe - and instead fight such illustrious names like Hakkar and Joppy for $300,000 DOLLARS!?!?!
Only if you answer me why Calzaghe didn't go on to unify the titles and fight other people to merit a match with him and Hopkins in which they BOTH could have made money.
That has nothing to do with this. Hopkins was offered a career highest pay day. But I'll answer anyway. They ducked him like Hopkins did. OK? Now answer my question.

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But I'm going to be getting a real look at Joe this Saturday so I can critique him
Good. Maybe you'll see why Hopkins ducked him.
I didn't see anything special. He's inconsistant and didnt even look half as good as Lacy made him look. I told you I would watch on Saturday to really get a good look at Calzaghe and he looked like a Hamed wannabe until he got popped in the face and made to bleed. If thats Calzaghe then I don't know what the big deal was. He didn't look half as good as Lacy made him look.
You shouldn't judge a fighter by one performance Gus. Would you class the Roy Jones that got hammered by Tarver and Johnson anything special? In all of Roys great performances was it the opposition fighting poor fights, or having "off" nights, that made him look so special, or was it because Jones has special talent?

Hopefully Hopkins thinks like you and will be prepared to face him now.

Inconsistant? 130-2 Amateur record, 42-0 longest reigning current world champion.