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Beanz, what's the difference between those party's racism and Labour's? Haven't you just voted for a racist party? This year alone the Labour Party have been slaughtered over racism/antisemitism. Corbyn and Freedom are best mates, aren't they?
Would Corbyn really ever use the language and express the attitudes Freedom did?

You as a mod endorsed that and now you are admitting it by suggesting that actually antisemitism is racism when it suits you.

To not point out the overt racism of the current government in Israel would actually be more antisemitic than doing so.

https://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com...-to-help-jews/

https://electronicintifada.net/blogs...-lobby-attacks

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...t-antisemitism
What do you mean I endorsed it? You sound as nuts as Freedom throwing rubbish like that around. Do you want me to ban everyone who's ever said racist/offensive things on here? Grow up!!!

I've never said a single thing in my entire life against Jews, never bought into global conspiracies, denied the holocaust or care about who is "justified" when it comes to Israel and Palestine (didn't even realise until now that made me antisemitic). I quite simply don't understand the hatred.

You can post articles defending Corbyn all day long, he is commonly called a racist/antisemitic - by Labour supporters/members not just his detractors. I've heard Jewish people in tears saying they fear for their safety in London and would be forced to leave if Corbyn ever got in power.

I am merely asking you, as a passionate Labour voter, and "anti-racism" man, what you think of the criticism of the party you voted for. That's all.

However, I guess you've answered the question.


You endorsed it because no matter how vile or nasty or racist it got you insisted it was not racism. Yet now when using it to describe Corbyn's anti-Zionist stance you are suggesting that it is.


I never asked you to ban anyone, and Freedom is not banned, but if there are going to be rules, guidelines and standards, then they should be applied fairly and consistently. I don't think that makes you racist or antisemitic at all, and have never said so.

Jewish people are just people...but more so. So yes I do not doubt you will have heard Jewish people calling Corbyn an anti-semite, and moaning they will have to leave the country. And for some of them it will not even be about avoiding paying their share of tax under a more just system but that does not make a lifel long campaigner against racism a racist.

It is a very useful accusation (and one i know you are not necessarily making) because it covers up the massive Islampahobia here on Saddo in the Conservative party and among large parts of the British population. Corbyn not supporting Israel in the same way the Toomy and Trump etc do, makes him fair game in the eyes of many for orchestrated fear campaigns.