Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
Horrendous yes, but Ortiz has failed 2 tests if my memory serves me right, I've had a fair few beers so I could be wrong g but I'm sure he's been done twice and he didn't get a.fucking 8 year ban.

Now don't get me wrong as far as I'm concerned the second that you test positive you should be banned but at the same time everything is so convoluted it is unreal.

And have you seen the length of the list of shit you shit allowed to take from VADA to UKAD it's as long as your arm and they are both different it would be easy to make a mistake.

At the same time if I was next in line for the HW belts I'd be phoning some dude up to say 'I've got a snotty nose can I take this brand of hayfever tablet? And then I'm going for a toby carvery, is the steak alright'

No excuses but you can see how mistakes are made.
Oh absolutely. I think the major issues are there's no universal sanctioning body for boxing, there are sanctioning bodies AND there's athletic commissions and how all this works together which groups you use for testing when the tests are how the tests are it's all a fucking mess and nobody understand it. I don't know when VADA is used vs WADA I don't know the difference between them other than the name. I don't know how or if their tests differ. I don't know if they are corrupt themselves(which is a possibility). I don't know if they are ever hindered or if they hinder a fighter one way or another because you never know.


It's too naive to think everyone is on the up and up and it's too cynical to think everyone is cheating all the time.


Boxing is just another sport people cheat in, it happens.