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I don’t doubt that GGG is tough. There are fighters who look more impressive against lesser fighter than others. Especially when you have big power. You look dominant beating decent opponents. You look unbeatable. Then you step up and realize that once somebody can take your punch, you aren’t nearly as good as you looked. Fighters can adjust to you and beat you.

Again, I thought that GGG beat Canelo twice, but I feel that Canelo proved that GGG isn’t is as good as advertised. If GGG were the #1 p4p guy like a lot of people thought, he should have more clearly best Canelo who I believe is overrated. Especially being so great, he should have adjusted and beat him easier in the second fight. But it was the opposite.
This is where it starts.

Claiming that GGG must have been overrated because he never clearly beat someone else you all think is overrated. Yet you all think he did in the first fight, like most fans (myself included) but the judges refused to admit that. Not knocking out Canelo now makes GGG overrated.

Ridiculous logic.

It stems from you guys refusal to rate Canelo realistically . Its not just you either, it is common across all boxing forums where he is underrated to the point that now you are all piling on, and dissing not only Golovkin, but the whole sport and other boxers with this daft "whoring himself out" "Canelo is his pimp" bullshit.

For all his faults Canelo is no Wilder. He has a solid CV and there is absolutely no shame in GGG choosing to rematch a guy, who many people, other than the judges, think he has beaten twice, for a huge payday.

Both GGG /Canelo fights proved that Canelo was indeed underrated to have made the contests so competitive. To not admit that is in fact, yet another way to bash GGG.

The guy can't win. He has fought Jacobs, Canelo, and now Derevyanchenko and not knocking them out or winning clearly on points has made him drop a level in your eyes. That is fine but is also evidence of you underrating Canelo and GGG, when a huge list of impressive stoppages by both are now repackaged as those opponents all being bums or overrated themselves. It's just not realistic and doesn't show any respect for the careers of all those fighters you are reducing to nobodies.
I’m thinking you didn’t understand my original point. I said that GGG was a very good fighter. The point I’ve been making is that there are levels to this. Fenster tried to compare Canelo to people like De la Hoya and Bhop. Even comparing GGG to them is far fetched. Both are la Hoya and Bhop have clearly beaten some great fighters and made them look like amateurs.

The best fighters that GGG has faced were Canelo, Jacobs, and Derevyanchenko. Jacobs and Derevyanchenko both had very good cases to have won the fights. He beat Canelo fairly clearly the first time (about as clearly as I thought Derevyanchenko beat GGG) and beat him in a close fight the next time IMO at least. He has some other good opponents on his hit list, but as I said before, some styles just look better against weaker opposition than others.

So GGG is a great fighter, but he proved to me that any time he stepped up, he couldn’t fully deliver. He is good enough to beat top fighters, but not good enough to prove that he is a level above them. So that’s my point. There are levels to this. GGG I thought before was on a higher tier, but I realized that at this point of his career, he has never proven to be able to get to that next level.