Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
Do you folks honestly think that Tories, Labour, LibDems are genuinely working towards achieving Brexit? I mean SOME Tory & Labour voters might(certainly no high ranking politicians), but I highly doubt it. I know the LibDems are buddy buddy with Guy Verhofstadt so that's a NO from them.


Let's all face the facts, the PEOPLE want what the politicians won't give them and won't even attempt to give them. After throwing up their hands because a deal cannot/will not be reached (thanks to the Germans and the always contrarian to everything British Irish) a second referendum will be pushed.


I would imagine that once general elections are allowed to happen the results will be pretty fucking wild.
Looking at Johnson's deal it is basically the same as what May was offering. It isn't a fair deal at all. The Brexit Party has its single policy, but if people are being duped that Johnson has a deal, then that is on them to not fall for the Tory trick as Johnson obviously does not have a good deal, but you cannot be a party that is basically establishment except for one policy. There is no future in that kind of limitation. So, maybe they will struggle due to the perception that Johnson 'has a deal'. Then Labour has flip flopped and not respected the results of the referendum and has abandoned the British working classes, and Lib Dems are basically a 5th column.

So, yes, I can see a messy result and just continued confusion. The people are not getting what they want and I can see potentially very dangerous consequences down the road. If you remember Ireland basically had a similar thing and a first referendum was ignored and then they were pummeled until accepting a second one. It is a tested strategy and if there is one rule of Euro Club it is that one must not leave Euro Club.