Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
I haven't denied history though have I? I simply pointed out that a lot has changed over more than half a century and that black people do have access to debt. There are laws in place meaning equality among races, but as to whether they are sufficiently enforced is not my realm. All I have said is that blacks have had access to those options and Denilson did list a number of debt options in that post. I am not sure why I am racist for saying that, but hey, your choice to go there. I was kidding about Toney of course who is of course always going to be a sexy hunk of a man. Nobody would deny that man anything. I would happily pay for his dinner even though it might be rather expensive.

I think racism exists in many forms and all around the world. For instance, no foreigner can buy property in India, but they flood the UK and buy up land there. I just think the generational suffering thing is a bit silly. Where I am the entire nation was torn to shreds through war, the poor would eat cats. My mother in law born a few years later will have experienced poverty, but there are no inter generational hang ups at work. Food was scarce, poverty was rife, but people knuckled on. No young person is blaming that for today, but they will blame current politics for less job opportunities or Corona for not being able to study in person. It is mostly the here and now and if a kids parents divorce young or whatever then inevitably that will affect them as that is a living evolving mind. But some black woman with 4 out of control kids and a 3 fathers and none of them around. Nah, she needs to own that situation.
YOu miss this point: this is the key to proving your method is dead wrong: THAT WOMAN WHO "NEEDS TO OWN" HER SITUATION WAS A KID WHOSE PARENTS ABUSED HER/NEGLECTED HER/DIVORCED ETC, AND THEN IN YOUR OWN WORDS THAT WILL AFFECT HER INEVITABLY. YOu have a huge blind spot Miles, on this point. OUt of one side of your mouth you state it will inevitably affect her, and I would say PERMANENTLY DAMAGE HER JUDGEMENT AND CHARACTER. And out of the other side of your mouth you say she "NEEDS TO OWN" the situation. Total self-contradiction. What a blind spot. How can she "own" anything if she has been emotionally disabled by her experiences? YOu are blind, man. YOu cannot connect the dots, you argue in theoretical SNAPSHOTS, PLATITUDES.

IT IS LAME.