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what offer did dmitry's team send canelo for a fight at super middle again? only dmitry turned down an offer
B.S. It is well documented that Canelo wanted another shot at 175, while Bivol said he'd only fight him again at 168. I guess Canelo wanted to get that embarrassment off his record, while Bivol wanted to prove he could kick Canelo's ass at any weight. It didn't happen. Case closed.


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artur was at light heavy. i'm not going to lie that's a tough fight. my question would be why would you want the smaller man canelo to fight artur before dmitry did?
Why not? Presumably Canelo is the guy who wants all the challenges. Why avoid Beterbiev like the plague (like he's doing with Benavidez now), and yet target bigger guys at cruiserweight?

Cherry-Picking 101: Prof. Alvarez


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ilunga was the original target but he had a mandatory to fulfill, so don king got that done quick smart, unfortunately canelo had moved on, he then came back to badou after his victory. what weight division is 180 in again? the cruiserweight limit also used to be 190 & the wbc was going to reduce it back down due to their bridgerweight division but they haven't enforced that up to this time

This is all so freaking desperate. LMFAO. It doesn't MATTER what weight division 180 is in. It doesn't MATTER that cruiserweight used to be 190. I don't GIVE a damn about the bridgerweight division. All your verbal gymnastics can't get Canelo off the hook for being a little bitch and selectively pick out non-threatening targets to collect his meaningless trinkets.

But please continue. This is the most fun I've had raking Canelo over the coals since I've been here.


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But this defense of Canelo wanting to fight for a "cruiserweight" title, at the expense of wanting to weight drain a Badou Jack who was just going about his business and probably doesn't give three shits about Canelo... while also instituting his usual diva rehydration clauses...

I'm honestly thankful that a Canelo fan is trying to defend and justify this ridiculous travesty. All it does is put a magnifying glass on the whole thing, and points out just how Canelo views trinkets.

He's got no intention of staying at cruiser, just like he's never had any intention of staying at 175. He just wants to collect meaningless, artificially achieved weight titles... so he can crow about being a champion at all these weights.

I wouldn't put it past Canelo to reach out to a weak HW champ... drain the crap out of him to some ridiculous catchweight.... and then have the nerve to call himself a heavyweight champion.
what weight division would a fight at 180 be in? i see nothing wrong with a smaller fighter proposing a guy who weighed 32 pounds more in his previous fight to drop 20 pounds. canelo was going to come up 12 pounds. if badou countered maybe they could have meet in the middle

trinkets are worthless to us but they hold some sway in the sport. adrien broner can always fall back on being a four division champion for example. the title didn't matter to me but canelo challenging a guy at 180 intrigued me

bring on manuel charr, i'd watch canelo fight him & whatever we may think of trinkets it'll be recorded by history

The bolded part still applies.

The whole thing is embarrassing. LMFAO

Canelo has made a frigging bitch ass clown of himself by asking a 200-pound cruiserweight (who honestly has ZERO interest in fighting Canelo) to drain himself to 180 (with rehydration clauses, of course), so they can fight for a BOGUS cruiserweight title. A title Canelo would have NO INTENTIONS of defending against a full-sized cruiser who weighed in at 200 and rehydrated a few pounds over that.

The redheaded bitch does not BELONG at cruiser!!! Hell... he got his ass kicked at 175. Be content with your 168 titles and STFU, for crying out loud. He does all these weight gymnastics, and STILL MANAGES TO AVOID THE 168-POUND ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM!!!!! Until the elephant got tired of waiting for the bitch and moved on.

THAT... will be part of Ginger's legacy when he's gone. A cherry-picking, trinket-grabbing coward.
so no offer from dmitry’s team for a fight at super middle? canelo offered same terms, dmitry turned down the offer

artur & amitry along with other light heavies should have been fighting each other before canelo needs to. if you’re claiming canelo ducked artur then dmitry has up to this point as well

it does matter what weight division 180 is in because you keep bringing up the meaningless trinket. still waiting for your answer

i was just pointing out that the cruiserweight limit used to be 190 & the wbc had planned to reduce in back when they introduced their bridgerweight division. badou may be non-threatening to you but he has always been in fun fights for me & he earned his trinket in the ring, a trinket that would be on the line because what weight division is 180 in again?

you may consider the title to be bogus but it would be fought for within the division weight limits. who said canelo had intentions to defend it? other fighters haven’t intended to defend titles before, this is nothing new

you seem overly emotional. he’s just a boxer. go outside & get some sun & fresh air. you are one of these guys that says it’s unfair for jermell to move up 14 pounds to fight canelo saying it’s too much but then complaining when canelo proposes to move up 12 pounds when already in his fifth weight division against a guy that was 32 pounds heavier than him in their previous fights

since you see no issue with canelo fighting someone 32 pounds above him, you should have no issues with terence crawford moving straight up from welter to fight canelo at super middle or for naoya inoue to move up from super bantam to fight tank at lightweight. no double standards now

canelo will be a first ballot hall of famer. fact

one other question I would ask you. do you consider dmitry a pound for pound top ten guy currently?