Good thread this one, nice one @Master. I think “enraged” at @Denilson’s post is a bit over the top.
I don’t agree with everything he said, but he put a decent case (as he always does tbf. Until he gets carried away by race)
I’m counting this as Usyk’s prime, and I’m counting each of his opponents in their prime.
Liston - Usyk on points.
Ali - Ali on points.
Frazier- great fight , Usyk SD.
Foreman - Usyk Points
Holmes - Holmes Points
Tyson - Tyson KO between 6 & 10. (Any later than that and Usyk wins by late KO or points)
Holyfield - Holyfield SD
Bowe - Usyk SD
Lennox - Lewis UD
Wlad - Wlad on points
The way I see it Usyk deals with the big guys pretty well, hence beating Foreman and Bowe. Too much ring IQ for Liston. Ali is the same size , but Ali beats him in just about every department, although he probably doesn’t KO Usyk.
Infact the Critique @Denilson made about Usyk could almost be thrown at Ali if you think about it. Yes he KO’d Foreman, but Foreman was dead on his feet. And there’s always been a bit of controversy about the Liston KO.
I think he edges Frazier, Holmes keeps him off with his jab.
Holyfield would be all over Usyk like a rash, similar to Frazier but a little bit more skill in my book.
And I think styles make fights and prime Lennox and Wlad would be too awkward for Usyk. They would Jab, hold and lean all over Usyk for 12 rounds solid.