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    Default Re: Can Usyk go to Ali level status?

    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Hear me out,

    Muhamma Ali was just as much political activist and fighter. When Ali was against the Vietnam war, despite being locked up for dodging the draft, he hit superstar status and became larger than life.

    So, if Usyk can strike the right tones with regard to the war in the Ukraine, and perhaps get a condemnation from the Trump administration for it and a possible boxing ban for a year or two, he would come off as an amazing human being that would NEVER be forgotten and hit heights that only Ali has made. Think about it.

    Just me writing fantasy scripts in my mind.
    I'm not really going to speak on the political side of Usyk and Ali (for once) because then it's get's into trying to win gold medal at the oppression olympics. I'm going to judge them as fighters

    Look. The comparison (as fighters) between Usyk and Ali is simply not warranted (and I really rate Usyk).

    Muhammed Ali best wins are prime George Foreman and Joe Frazier, that is top 10 heavyweights of all time. He also beat a very close to prime Sonny Liston, a top 10 heavyweight. There was a 14 year period between Ali winning the Lineal heavyweight title and the last time he held it

    Usyk hasn't even had a 14 year career

    It would take a much more special fighter than Usyk to eclipse Ali at heavyweight. Usyk is good, but Ali does everything better than him and is simply far more talented. You know how Roy Jones was able to make elite technicians like James Toney and Bernard Hopkins look like mugs? That's that would happen to Usyk once Ali shows he's Usyk's equal in technical ability but has better stamina, faster hands, better foot speed and more power.

    And I'm talking about young Ali (Cassisus Clay) not the Ali who fought Foreman or even Frazier, the Ali before the Vietnam sanction

    I'm talking this Ali, the 1967 Cleveland Williams - Ali



    And as a young man, Ali could fight like that, at pretty much that pace for 15 rounds.

    Now, if you were to say Usyk would beat the 2nd coming of Ali ? The slower, less dancing Ali ? That's a fair argument, I still don't think Usyk would, but I'm not as certain. I'm only 70% certain that the older Ali would beat Usyk, Whereas I'm 99% certain the young Ali beats Usyk.

    A young Ali was pretty much untouchable before the forced exile from boxing. Mate - I'll take it to the next level. Usyk would not even land a punch on the young Ali (Cassius Clay). I am writing fairytales for my 3 year old. I'm gonna include your post in it lol

    Maybe if Usyk went 15 years unbeaten at World title level, we could have a discussion about it.

    But it's ironic that both Uysk and Ali share a birthday and are both are six foot three inches in height, have a seventy-eight reach and their optimum fighting weight is between 215 and 220 pounds,
    Last edited by Denilson3.0; 03-29-2025 at 03:49 PM.

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